What program can i use to equal all my mp3's volume levels. i have approx. 12000 mp3s so doin one by one is out of the question.
I use MP3Gain which is free, and can be used in batch mode, so just choose the folder and let it go over night.
I'm giving MP3gain a try now. Ive got tons of songs to adjust and so far I've tried it on a few and it had pretty good results. Just do a search for mp3gain on Google. Its free and really easy to find.
I however have 2 drives in my Jukebox. One is the primary with the second drive as my backup drive just in case it dies and I have a complete backup of all my tunes. So I'm going to mess with the primary and if it has issues I can easily restore. I was reading somewhere and you can revert back to what the mp3's where before the change. I haven't toyed with it as of yet, but if need be I'll give it a whirl.
I do find it interesting that you can scan your MP3's and it tells you what db they are each. I knew I had some that where louder than others, but had no idea that some of them where 102db and some of my AC/DCs where 90db. I'm setting them all to the defaulted 89.
It does talk about clipping on the net as a way to clip off anything that goes above the set db, but said it could give you a static sound or a skip sound. So in the options I turned it off.
tomorrow will tell.
Does anybody know of a filter or plugin one can use to equalize the videos? Something that really works with links please. Something that will be able to set to a spesific dB level.
After 3 months of searching for a way to do it without losing quality I have found a way to do it without using a plugin or filter but it takes some time to do it. The other thing that is important to mention is that I have differentses of up to 20 dB between some videos. That is a huge differents at the end of the day and the filter or plugin must be able to handle that without any loss in quality.
Well MP3 gain ran all night and didn't finish so its been runing for a day and a half on a little 1ghz machine. I guess 10000+ songs takes a while huh? ;)
Its not perfect, but it sounds better and the wife isn't as mad hearing my music blasting and hers really quite.
The cross fading link i posted well they have a normalizer plugin that works... I can't post it as it's 3mb but i can upload it to kizers web space if anyone wants it. The trouble with mp3 gain is it messes with your mp3 files and i think it might cause quality loss.
Yes I am very interested please post location.
Barry can you advice where I can find this application I have searched at the crossfaders site with no luk.
thanks
http://www.iamkizer.net/freeboxjukebox/files/DCDSPFilter_v1.03_Installer.zip
Hi Barry
I did try this dcdspfilter earlier this year but I didn't get it to work correctly. I tried it again now.
Can somebody help with a manual or something on how to install it and to set it up.
I installed it again now and it installed to c:/program files/DSP-worx but when I try to set it up I can't find where to set it to normalize my sound.
I havent been able to make it work either, any help appereciated
It works automatically like the cross fading plugin, AFAIK there isn't any config for it.
it is probable I am doing something wrong but I cannot tell that it is doing anything at all nor am I able to determine if it is really running
ideas ?
I posted my normalization solution on the old forums but I guess it's gone now. I use MP3gain and I set it up to automatically normalize all files in album-mode every night at 5am (this way I do not have to bother with normalizing when I add music). In my opinion this is by far the most convenient way to do it.
Contrary to an earlier reply the program does not cause any quality loss. There are normalizing plugins but I feel that it's better to do that extra processing at night rather than in real-time during playback, and I also feel that album-mode is better than normalizing everything to one level.
This is the .bat file that runs every night at 5am to normalize my collection:
echo ===================================================== >> "C:\program files\mp3gain\autogain.txt"
echo Running mp3gain, %time% %date% >> "C:\program files\mp3gain\autogain.txt"
F:
for /R F:\mp3library\ %%I IN (hjhjkhjk) DO cd "%%~dpI" && "C:\program files\mp3gain\mp3gain.exe" /a /c *.mp3
echo Finished mp3gain, %time% %date% >> "C:\program files\mp3gain\autogain.txt"
As an aside, the .bat file also contains instructions to defrag the drives every evening, which I recommend (only works on Windows XP):
echo Running defrag c:, %time% %date% >> "C:\program files\mp3gain\autogain.txt"
defrag c:
echo Finished defrag c:, %time% %date% >> "C:\program files\mp3gain\autogain.txt"
echo Running defrag f:, %time% %date% >> "C:\program files\mp3gain\autogain.txt"
defrag f:
echo Finished defrag f:, %time% %date% >> "C:\program files\mp3gain\autogain.txt"
Although I am aware of some people using applications like MP3Gain the problem is my library is in the hundreds of thousand titles, normalizing all these titles thru MP3ZGain would require considerable time and power, and to be honest I am terrified the application is going to end up ruining any of my files as it does rewrite them as it normalices them.
Personally I would like on "on the fly" solution that normaklizes them as they are being played, I went to the extent of purchasing a hardware unit that supposedly does this about 6 months back, but unfortunatelly not only did it not do a good job at normalizing it also introduced a whole bunch of hiss into my media stream.
Quote from: netcat on June 03, 2007, 10:05:44 PM
Although I am aware of some people using applications like MP3Gain the problem is my library is in the hundreds of thousand titles, normalizing all these titles thru MP3ZGain would require considerable time and power, and to be honest I am terrified the application is going to end up ruining any of my files as it does rewrite them as it normalices them.
Personally I would like on "on the fly" solution that normaklizes them as they are being played, I went to the extent of purchasing a hardware unit that supposedly does this about 6 months back, but unfortunatelly not only did it not do a good job at normalizing it also introduced a whole bunch of hiss into my media stream.
Tony is correct, doing this on the fly is the best and doing it with hardware is the best solution. I need to look around the web again see if i can find anything. If anyone else is looking you are looking for an audio compressor. I believe that is the correct term for something that makes the sound a constant level, or so my audio engineer tells me.
Just an FYI, I use MP3gain on all of my MP3's, and of right now I have about 22000, and have had no problems. Here's an FAQ from the MP3Gain site:
Does normalizing the mp3 degrade its quality?
No. MP3Gain does not decode and re-encode the mp3 to change its volume. You can change the volume as many times as you want, and the mp3 will sound just as good (or just as bad!) as it did before you started.
Also, if you want to go back to the original Gain level, you can go to Modify Gain/ Undo Gain Changes, and it will set the MP3 back to the original level. When I originally did mine, it took about a day and a half, but after it was done, they were all pretty close in volume. Now I just run it when I add a new album.
Quote from: Barcrest on June 03, 2007, 10:14:42 PM
Tony is correct, doing this on the fly is the best and doing it with hardware is the best solution. I need to look around the web again see if i can find anything. If anyone else is looking you are looking for an audio compressor. I believe that is the correct term for something that makes the sound a constant level, or so my audio engineer tells me.
This is good for a kind of listening where everything should be approximately the same volume like in a bar, but if you have a piece that relies on soft-loud contrast between parts (movements of a symphony) it can adversely affect your music. The main reason I use MP3Gain is that it can look for loudness across the entire album and change it as a whole, so it will not push the soft violin solo up and the massive orchestral crescendo down.
Quote from: Zazen on June 04, 2007, 12:28:09 AM
Quote from: Barcrest on June 03, 2007, 10:14:42 PM
Tony is correct, doing this on the fly is the best and doing it with hardware is the best solution. I need to look around the web again see if i can find anything. If anyone else is looking you are looking for an audio compressor. I believe that is the correct term for something that makes the sound a constant level, or so my audio engineer tells me.
This is good for a kind of listening where everything should be approximately the same volume like in a bar, but if you have a piece that relies on soft-loud contrast between parts (movements of a symphony) it can adversely affect your music. The main reason I use MP3Gain is that it can look for loudness across the entire album and change it as a whole, so it will not push the soft violin solo up and the massive orchestral crescendo down.
Yes i have noticed volume can fluctuate during the same song/video with cheaper compressors. However hardware compressors are what are used in the industry for TV etc so they must work. To be honest it's all a little over my head. I have just left my albums as they are and on the whole they sound fine, the couple of exceptions i just alter my volume slightly.
the other problem is I have several hundred videos and many thousand Karaokes, and have no way to regulate the audio volume for the videos
Yes, my problem is also the videos. I use mp3gain for my mp3's and I have no problem with them. One should be able to use this to normalize the mp3 part of the karaoke files.
My only problem is the VIDEOS.
Coffee
You can try this, found it out on the web. Looks like someone created a batch file with a few apps (including MP3Gain) to normalize .avi files. The .bat could be tweaked if needed I'm sure. I couldn't get it to work, but it's a start.
http://www.vidomi.com/download.php?op=geninfo&did=19
Netcat,
I just sent you a similar program to test on a few of your Video files. Check your email. Let me know if it works well for the videos or not. The videos will need to be in .avi format for it to work though.
Right i asked the experts over at Matthews Electronics.. http://www.djequipment.co.uk
QuoteI have Songs where the volume level is different, i want to make them sound the same when playing them at discos and such. Somebody told me i need a compressor, i was looking on your site but i am a bit lost, what do you suggest i need as i am confused now.
They said....
QuoteHi Barry, all you need is one of these COMPOSER PRO-XL MDX2600 £79.00 inc vat Mark
So there you go, that is the hardware solution and to be honest it's not to expensive. You might be able to find them on ebay.
Hi Everyone
I tried the link Eist1 posted and it is very promissing. The problem is that I need a "normalize.jobs" script that is run through "job control" in nandub. Nanbub is the same as VirtualDub. Can anybody maybe assist with this script that is needed? It just need to combine the audio and video. (Direct stream copy)
The bat file works well untill it gets to ( start /wait nandub/nandub /s"normalize.jobs" /x /r ). The site's support forum is down. It normalize the sound but it can't compile it again. This will be very helpfull to everyone that uses Freebox because if this is working you just need to copy your files into a directory and normalize it once.
No need for hardware, filters or plugins.
Well done Eist1.
Coffee
Coffee,
I think I found a better soluton, it's called AVI_Gain, here are a few links to a few diffrent versions. See which version works the best:
http://www.bestsharing.com/f/e1Ta9E247163
http://www.bestsharing.com/f/0aZqq214081
The only think I needed to do with each is to go into each .bat file and remove the N- from in front of the %1 if you don't do this the program errors out saying it can't find the file.
With this program, just put all of your .avi's in the root folder (Example: c:\AVI_Gain) and run the batch file, it will normalize the avi's and rename them. Hope this works. Try a few samples and let us know how thwy sound. Thanks
see that tree infront of you, well you are barking up the wrong one. hardware is the way to go
Barcrest,
If you are referring to my comment "better solution", I was referring to the previous link to the normalizer software (AVI_Gain), not the hardware solution. I fully agree that the hardware would be the best way to go, but that is a pretty big piece of hardware to add to my already filled stereo cabinet, and I have no complaints so far with MP3Gain, as it sounds fine to me, especially after using SRS Audio Sandbox to enhance the MP3's (whether using MP3Gain or not). As for the video audio nomalizer (AVI_Gain), I personally haven't tried it on actual music videos, so that's why I was asking coffee and netcat to try them out and let us know if they even work. Hopefully we'll hear something from them. Thanks
Hi Barry
I respect your point-of-view. I just think that people can rather donate $75 to you than spend $150 on hardware that is bulky and sometime not so reliable. You should be able to bulk prosses your videos with this way we are busy with.
Eist1, I'm on top of this and I will let you guys know as soon as I get it working. I got a code gennerator last night and I'm currently busy with it.
Coffee
Sorry didn't mean to upset anyone
No problem Barry.
I am pleased to say that I have solved the problem. It really works very well. It takes about 3 - 5 minutes to normalize an entire DVD, depending on the size of it.
I am busy trying to get the bulk prossessing working and fine tuning it so that anybody can use it with ease. Give me a few days to sort everything out and I will post a tatorial on how to do it.
Coffee
Sounds cool, i think i will run my videos through it as the levels are all over the price.
Glad to hear it actually works on the videos...
OK, bulk prosessing is working now and I have speed it up. It takes 1 - 2 minutes to normalize an entire DVD now. I still have to check how much quality loss there is. I already checked the sound quality and that is fine. I just need to check video quality.
The input bitrate and output bitrate is the same. So there is also no loss in video quality.
so MP3 gain has been running for approx 18 hours and is done 87% of my 10,000 MP3s.
At least you didn't have to do them one by one huh? :) That's about the same rate it took to do mine.
Could someone please help me understand this, because this makes me NERVOUS!!!!
I installed the MP3Gain, just went w/ the default settings for 89db.
First thing I noticed is just about all tracks are a - number by album gain (negative that is)
and there are TONS and I mean TONS that have a Y by clipping....
Clipping is what has me nervous, by letting it do it's thing, what are my risks w/ that clipping?
Of course, I keep a backup of all my music (not stupid here)...
But just restoring the music takes over 24 hours coping across the network.
Any advice? I would appreciate it!!!
Then..... next comes the videos!
If your tracks are showing up in red, and showing clipping y, it means that the original setting was below what you are changing it to (89), so it might have been 87 or 85. I have many files that are showing clipping, and I have never had a problem, the only time I could see a problem is if the original setting was 50 and you changed it to 89, where there is a big difference. You can actually see the original setting as it is processing the track, you'll see the original setting flash up, then it will change it to 89, so you'll know how off it is. If you do run into issues, the easiest way to rollback is to go into MP3Gain, choose your tracks, then go up to Modify Gain/Undo Gain Changes and it will set the tracks back to their original settings. Much easier than doing a restore...
To undo the gain with mp3gain is very quick. Eist1 is correct you won't easily hear the differents if a track is clipped. The only place you'll see it is maybe on a movie or when you prosses classical music where you have very low and very loud sounds. In this case you may hear a bit of distortion at high pitch.
Mp3gain has a function "do not clip" when prossesing, but it doesn't work either with GUI or with command line switching.
You can also try a program called "BeSweet" to normalize your music. I know that some people like this one better, but personally I use mp3gain because I can set it more accurately.
Coffee
STANDARD DISCLAIMER: not dissin anybody or sugesting that these are not all wonderfull ideas/sugestions, just my opinion and if you ask my wife she will be more than happy to tell you my opinion doesnt count anyways.
given my massive multimedia library (which is growing) I cant help but wonder.
Wouldnt on "on the fly" normalizer that works on anything coming out of the speaker save everyone a lot of time and agravation, plus you would never have to worry about it again for future media.
As I said I tried a hardware solution (which didnt work at all) but has anyone managed to make the software one Barry was a talking about work???
or How difficult would it be to build into the software??? if it is easy enough and we all pitch in we may be able to persuade Mr. Barcrest to implement this feature ???
Hi Netcat
I will really second that motion. The problem is that I have tried it twice allready but I couldn't get it to work. Maybe you can give it a try, it's called "DCDSPFilter_v1.03_Installer.zip" and you can find it at http://dsp-worx.de/index.php?n=4 .
Maybe you will have more luck.
Coffee
Personally I use MP3Gain to normalize my MP3's so I can use them on my Ipod or any other portable devices, and get the same volume level. Building it into Freebox would be great, but for me I would then run into issues later down the road.
I tried making work as well thus so far unsuccesfully, perhaps Barry can give us more detail on how he made it work?
Yeah, I can't figure out the options menu. ???
Thanks for the advice.... I'll give it a shot....
It's been almost 24 hours and it's still just doing the analysis!!!
Wonder how long it will take to process!!!!
What about the auto volume leveling built into windows media player on windows 7 has anyone tried that?
I remember looking at it a year or so ago, but for whatever reason MP3 Gain does the job better. Can't remember what the reason was now.
Yes I can, you had to delete and re-build your library and it seemed quicker to me to use MP3 Gain. Obviously it is better to use the levelling feature from the beginning as it does it on the fly, where as I have to use MP3 Gain every time I add new music.
I use mp3gain also...never add music without it!! :beer
One tip I found out for MP3Gain is don't waste your time pressing track analysis and then track gain, just press track gain straight away and it will just convert to the level that you want. It saves a lot of time as well.
Yeah i do that. I also have the volume to 95db just for alittle more volume it is a huge diference and they come out good.
A bit off topic but has any one used the MP3 Gain AAC file for movies at all?
yes for mp4s
however I know use breakaway audio enhancer which does it on the fly and also will normalize video playback
and gives the sound a crispy bass effect
if you download it to test it out and like it if anybody wants full version pm me after weekend and ill sort it for you
ive used mp3gain for many years but since I started using this I don't have to bother
as I said breakaway audio normalize video and audio levels no work to do at all worth a try
Just had a look at breakaway on youtube seems far too complex for what we need it for or some of us anyway. I had a look at some of the reviews for it and a lot of places only rate it one star. I am happy with MP3Gain it is free, does audio and video although not on the fly, but at least then although takes a little time, no need to rely upon third party software running in the background.
the youtube vids make it look scary but its not very simple just runs in background
and brilliant sound quality better then all other sound enhancers ive trieid but
anythings got to be better then windows sound or realteck hd
I love MP3 Gain and will continue to use it so that no matter what I plau my music on I never have to play "lets keep changing the volume". For instance I never listen to the radio in the car preferring to play mp3's from a memory stick. When I back my files up the sound is all the same volume no matter where it goes.
I do like the look of this software for videos though. I never got around to sorting out my music video collection due to this very issue and the mix of formats I gave.
Brad