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Title: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: Bondy on September 09, 2009, 02:50:49 PM
Hi guys

I recently downloaded some karaoke files to try out on freebox, the files are sunfly karaoke ones cdg format,

I installed the karaoke codec but when ever i try to play 1 of the karaoke fles i get this pop up come up in windows media player   "Windows Media Player Cannot Play The File. The Player Might Not Support The File Type Or Might Not Support The Codec That Was Used To Compress The File"

I have opened the files ok with avg player so i no the files seem to work ok ??

Im runing windows media player 10 if that helps.

I got told to add this to notepad with the name karaoke.reg
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.cdg]
"PerceivedType"="video"


Any help would be great thanks

Nic
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: fordman on September 09, 2009, 03:01:56 PM
In your E-Touch folder, you should see a karaoke 2.3.zip file. Open it and run the setup.exe. It is a directX file needed for karaoke files. Try that and see if that doesnt help!

If its not in your E-Touch folder, then download it here:

www.ppcomponents.com/etouch/karaoke2_3.zip (http://www.ppcomponents.com/etouch/karaoke2_3.zip)

:beer

Fordman
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: fordman on September 09, 2009, 03:04:42 PM
Also, you need to make a Non-MP3 tag for the .cdg file. Place that in the same folder as your .cdg. When you run the config, only find the .cdg files in the mask.

:beer

Fordman
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: ajs1544 on September 09, 2009, 03:17:43 PM
Mine has done this for awhile comes up with same message WMP11 and I have the karaoke Direct X setup installed.....I have to select the try to play option twice then it plays the track...but is very annoying it wont just play the track straight off..!

Also didn't think you needed to use the non-mp3 tagger for karaoke as the karaoke files are mp3 with graphics or am I wrong as the non-tagger doesn't pick up cdg files anyway unless you change the mask..?
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: Woody on September 09, 2009, 06:06:14 PM
Guys,

You don't have to use the non-mp3 tagger at all!
After you install the karaoke DX files just setup the association by: pointing to a .cdg file (Right click) "open with" windows media player and set to "always use the selected program to open this kind of file". Windows media player may give an error (first time) and you just tell it to open anyway. After the association is set you are good to go as long as you have propper codec setup.

Woody
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: fordman on September 09, 2009, 06:49:54 PM
You are correct about using the DirectX codec, then making the .cdg file open with WMP. But when using the config, if the mask is set up to find .cdg and .mp3 then it will only show the mp3's becuase of the ID3 tag. If you make a tag for the .cdg's with the non-mp3 tagger, then set the mask to find only .cdg's then only the karaoke files will display and be played. If you only have the mp3 part of the karaoke file showing in the song list then that is the only part that will work as that is the only part you told it to work. That is why I said the make a non-mp3 tag just so it will only find the .cdg's.

So my file structure is like this:

(http://www.ppcomponents.com/etouch/file3.jpg)

I only have the .cdg's show up when making a karaoke database with the config.

:beer

Fordman

Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: Woody on September 09, 2009, 08:06:56 PM
Fordman,

Having the MP3 files reside in the same library as the cdg files is no accident they are both required for playback on ANY karaoke system, when the mp3 file is played the karaoke DX filter automatically searches for
the companion (cdg) file with the same name and renders the video. Therefore if E-T commands WMP to play a particular mp3 file the DX filter will look for a .cdg file. If you take one of the cdg files on your system and rename it to match one of your non-karaoke mp3 files guess what happens. As long as you keep the karaoke files (both mp3 and cdg ) isolated in their own directory all you have to do with the config is load the mp3 files just like you do your music library. You don't need to use the tagger at all.

Woody
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: Barcrest on September 09, 2009, 08:21:34 PM
using the non mp3 tagger is a bad idea for karaoke files it pulls the tag from the mp3 part of the file.
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: fordman on September 09, 2009, 08:21:46 PM
Woody,

I tried it your way with all result in everything displaying No Tag - No Tag. I dont know what or how yours is setup but if I use the non-mp3 tagger for the .cdg files and then run the config then all is well. Maybe I'm missing the boat somewhere?  ???  ???

:beer

Fordman
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: Barcrest on September 09, 2009, 08:23:44 PM
Like i said for karaopke the mp3 part needs to be tagged corretly and all will work fine.
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: Woody on September 09, 2009, 08:39:08 PM
Fordman,

Like Barry said tag the karaoke mp3 files just the same as you have tagged your music mp3 files.

Woody
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: fordman on September 10, 2009, 02:40:03 PM
Ok, now I've figured it out. I was getting the same result but taking extra steps. I was making tags for the cdg file only because I had the mask in the config to find both the cdg and mp3 files. So now I have it only finding the mp3's. When the mp3 plays that has an associated cdg file, then the cdg file kicks in. My error  :tommy

But now all is good and I'll have to do a tutotrial!

:beer

Fordman
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: Barcrest on September 10, 2009, 02:40:57 PM
We like tutorials.
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: dedos on September 10, 2009, 09:00:57 PM
I'm chiming in since I'm going down this path as well soon,

Does e-touch have the ability to read karaoke files as zip files?

Thanks

D
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: Bondy on September 11, 2009, 01:44:53 AM
Im still having issues with this as ajs1544 said i also have to select the try to play option twice then it plays the track...but is very annoying it wont just play the track straight off..!

I double click 1 of my karaoke files windows media opens, then straight away i get the error "Windows Media Player Cannot Play The File. The Player Might Not Support The File Type Or Might Not Support The Codec That Was Used To Compress The File"

so i click cancil but after i do that if i then click on play it works ?????

I have set it to allways play with windows media player and i have the karaoke Direct X setup installed

Any reasons why im having problems ??

When ever i choose to open it with VLC it opens with no problems at all

I dont no where im going wrong help please
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: fordman on September 11, 2009, 02:32:22 AM
We'll try the obvious route first:

LEFT Click on the .cdg file and chose open with:

(http://www.ppcomponents.com/etouch/select.jpg)

Then....

(http://www.ppcomponents.com/etouch/select2.jpg)

Click OK.

Open WMP then goto Options and make sure WMP is the default player for your MP3's

(http://www.ppcomponents.com/etouch/wmpoptions.jpg)

Click OK

Then, try to open the .cdg file by itself. It should play.

(http://www.ppcomponents.com/etouch/wmp.jpg)

But if you get this error:

(http://www.ppcomponents.com/etouch/wmperror.jpg)

Then the .cdg file is corrupted or is a bad rip!

Alot of karaoke files found on the net or torrent sites are bad rips. I used Audiograbber to rip some karaoke files and some of those didnt turn out correctly.

:beer

Fordman


Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: Woody on September 11, 2009, 07:54:29 PM
Bondy,

When you get the error the first time does it give you the option "open this file anyway" or "play this file anyway"? If so go ahead and open/play the file, after you do this one time you should not get this filetype error again.

Woody
 
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: eist1 on February 09, 2010, 10:15:35 PM
Has anyone figured out how to get around the error "Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The Player might not support the file type or might not support the codec that was used to compress the file" When opening a .cdg in Windows Media Player? I have installed Karaoke 2.3 (and .cdg is associated with WMP), but when I try and double click the .cdg and Windows Media Player opens up, but then I get that error, if I hit Close and Play Again in WMP the file plays fine. But in E-Touch the files aren't playing because of the initial error message, which doesn't show up in E-Touch only when trying to open the fire directly. This is using WMP 12 if that makes any difference. can someone verify that this should work on WMP 12? Thanks
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: eist1 on February 10, 2010, 07:36:36 AM
Well looks like there is an issue with WMP 11 and 12 and Karaoke. As I downgraded my XP PC from WMP 11 to 9 and it works fine. As soon as I upgrade to WMP 11 it breaks again. The issue I have is that I am building an All in One PC (ASUS 20" Widescreen) but it has Windows 7 installed (has all the touchscreen tools installed) so there will be an issue with Karaoke. Does anyone know of another WMP plugin that plays .cdg? Please let me know. Thanks
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: Barcrest on February 10, 2010, 10:34:04 AM
If you get the error that says the file doesn't match the expected type you can put a tick in to overwrite it. As for wmp11 i can use it fine with that. You might just need an updated CDG plugin to support WMP12.
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: eist1 on February 12, 2010, 05:29:12 AM
Ok, after a bunch of trial and error with Windows 7 and Windows Media Player 12 I have finally got everything to work (the same as WMP 11 on XP) I downgraded WMP 12 to WMP 11 with the following downgrade script Windows7WMPDowngrader_1.1.exe http://www.iamkizer.net/freeboxjukebox/files/skins/V4skins/Downloads/Windows7WMPDowngrader_1.1.exe (http://www.iamkizer.net/freeboxjukebox/files/skins/V4skins/Downloads/Windows7WMPDowngrader_1.1.exe) Also I downloaded a newer version of Karaoke for DirectX which now allows videos for the karaoke screen background karaoke-3.0-beta3 http://www.iamkizer.net/freeboxjukebox/files/skins/V4skins/Downloads/karaoke-3.0-beta3.zip (http://www.iamkizer.net/freeboxjukebox/files/skins/V4skins/Downloads/karaoke-3.0-beta3.zip) (Barry may want to include this updated karaoke zip in future versions of E-Touch.)

Here are the steps I took to downgrade from WMP 12 to WMP 11 on Windows 7:

1. Uninstall Karaoke for Direct X if you already have it installed (also go into Program Files and delete the folder if it is still there)
2. Do a regedit and seach the registry for .cdg and delete any entries it finds for .cdg
3. Run the Windows7WMPDowngrader_1.1.exe and let it do its install. After it's done reboot.
4. After rebooting install karaoke-3.0-beta3 and reboot again
5. After rebooting go into your Karaoke song folder and right click a .cdg file and choose Open With and then choose Windows Media Player and make sure the "Always use the selected program to open this type of file" box is checked
6. The .cdg should now open in WMP 11 and start playing (at least it did for me after doing this a few times)

Hope this helps some of you out

The only issue I am now having in E-Touch for any WMP 11 PC (XP and Windows 7) is that when first opening E-Touch if you choose a Karaoke song the ID3 Tag info does not show up when playing and when going into the Now Playing screen and hitting the lyrics box, it's jumps you back to the main album page. But if you hit the skip ahead arrow and play another Karaoke song, the ID3 Tag info shows up fine and you can go into the Now Playing screen and tap the lyrics box and it goes to full screen. I have recreated this on my Windows XP WMP 11 jukebox, and my Windows 7 WMP 11 PC with exactly the same issue. So it isn't specific to an operating system, just WMP 11. Maybe Barry could take a look at it and see if he can get the same thing happening with WMP 11 as I have. I know it worked the first time I tried it (after installing) but after the second try it starts occuring (only after first E-Touch boot up). Also, if Barry could get the Auto Full screen to work just on Karaoke/Video and not Audio that would be even better.

BTW, here's a screenshot using an image as a background for karaoke in E-Touch (go into the Karaoke for DirectX settings in the start menu and choose an image under the CD+G settings tab, I'm sure a video would even look cooler)

(http://www.iamkizer.net/freeboxjukebox/files/skins/V4skins/Downloads/karaoke_song_bg.jpg)
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: pwood999 on July 27, 2021, 06:45:43 PM
Does anyone still have the WMP-11 downgrader ?
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: pwood999 on July 28, 2021, 02:53:44 PM
Replying to my own post:    I found the "Windows7WMPDowngrader_1.1.exe" eventually.   

Also tried a clean install on a Win-7 32bit Virtualbox machine, and got the process to work.   I cannot get Win7-64 to work with Karaoke on any machine these days (64bit if fine for MPS only).     Also "karaoke_3.0" does not work for me, but the bundled "karaoke_2.3" does work.

So unless someone knows better, I will be installing 32-bit on my HP i5 All-in-One so we can have Kaaoke working this weekend (grandaughter's christening)

Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: Barcrest on July 29, 2021, 10:48:11 AM
To be fair I have not used Karaoke on my jukebox for ages. Tend to just use music videos on it now days, glad you did get it resolved though.
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: pwood999 on July 30, 2021, 03:22:15 PM
Update on my setup & success.    I completely failed to get either WMP-11 downgrade to work in Win7-64bit no matter what I tried . . . . and yes I tried all the procedures I can find on here.   

Was testing the latest v10 on my other laptop which already had Windows 10, and found that simply installing E-Touch, and then Karaoke_2.3 fro9m the e-Touch folder, it all works with WMP-12 in Win10 64bit.  Seems WMP-12 is no longer the issue (maybe MS fixed it?).

So I decided to upgrade the old Windows 7-64bit on my HP Touchsmart using the "Win 10 Free process".   The upgrade took a while due to the HDD speed, but afterward I simply re-installed Karaoke_2.3 and it works.   :)   Time will tell if the windows updates break it, but most of the time the jukebox has no internet !!

Finally new SSD arrived today, so I'm in the process of upgrading the HDD to SSD to speed it up a bit.
Title: Re: Karaoke files not playing
Post by: Barcrest on August 02, 2021, 07:40:08 AM
I am just using a stock 64bit Windows 10 myself. The dev machine is still windows 7 but that is because i don't want to stop anything working.