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Title: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on May 07, 2007, 04:04:06 AM
IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP         (ver 1.0)
By: Tony Jimenez         May 06, 2007



Look for TinyXP Ver. 06                                             Use GOOGLE, Download, unzip & create an original CD
install Tiny XP (requires original cd of XP SP2)                Boot from CD select Option 4
Install drivers corresponding to your  hardware               (Wireless NIC & Touch screen are extra handy)
Turn OFF Windows Firewall                                         Properties of Local Area Connection, Advanced
Turn remote access ON                                             Control panel, System, Remote (TAB)
Set up Windows for best performance                          Control panel, System, Advanced, Performance,
                                                                            Adjust for best performance
Adjustments to Windows Virtual Memory                       DO NOT adjust let Windows manage it
If you wish to interact with the jukebox use                  REMOTE ADMINISTRATOR (www.radmin.com)
Install Tony's Big Beefy mouse pointer                          http://www.780tech.com/Cursor.cur
Set up an administrator password                                Control Panel, User Accounts
Make Windows type in password for you                       START, RUN, type: control userpasswords2
Download install WINRAR                                            http://www.rarlabs.com/
Download Install & configure BOOTSKIN                        http://www.stardock.com/products/bootskin/
Download Install & configure OBJECTDOC                      http://www.stardock.com/products/objectdock/
Download Install & configure WINAMP                           http://www.winamp.com/
Download Install & configure FREEBOX                          http://www.juketastic.com/
Get rid of Windows explorer interface                           Use REGEDIT (at your own risk!)

Steps to modify your registry to boot to Objectdock instead of explorer

RUN:                       REGEDIT
Follow path:             [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
Look for key             SHELL
Modify value:            C:\Program Files\Stardock\ObjectDock\ObjectDock.exe"

Note: I originally intended for PC to load OBJECTDOCK as a service and boot directly to Freebox thus proviing the OBJECTDOCK interface when exiting Freebox, so far however I have not been succesfull in making  OBJECTDOCK run as a service, so I have PC booting to OOBJECTDOCK and from there you must select FREEBOX (as shown in figure 2)

If you wish PC to boot directly to freebox replace above green line with:


Modify value:            C:\Program Files\Freebox V2\freebox.exe

(Figure 1) This is what my jukebox looks like when it is booting

(http://www.780tech.com/juketastic/juketastic1.JPG)

(Figure 2) This is what my jukebox PC looks like once fully booted

(http://www.780tech.com/juketastic/juketastic2.JPG)

Once everything is set and done your entire installation should be less than 1 GB and you jukebox should run much, much faster


Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: coffee on May 07, 2007, 02:38:28 PM

Thanks, it looks great. I'll have a look at it.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: coffee on May 25, 2007, 07:20:43 PM
Hi Netcat

I got tinyxp and it makes a huge differents. The biggest differents is in speed, everything is so much faster and it look and "feels" nice too. A friend had it and he did the install as well.

Thanks Netcat
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: squirrellydw on May 25, 2007, 09:05:09 PM
how much faster is it?  Where do you notice the differece at??
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on May 25, 2007, 09:48:28 PM
your entire system will run much faster you will notice speed increase everywhere, you have never seen windows run this fast before

Read this quote about tinyXP I found on the Internet

"This TinyXP not only runs fast, but takes up only 400Mb total space on your system hard drive. Thats the "WINDOWS" folder, "Documents and settings" and "Program Files." By using only 40Mb of RAM, this allows your PC to run fast, I mean VERY fast!"

I have created a ghost image which should work on anyones PC that is all setup and ready to go as per my screenshots above, if anyone wants to give it a go let me know entre siz is (396MB)
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: coffee on May 25, 2007, 10:00:53 PM
All I can add is that it is deffinatly the way to go. It a huge differents.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: kizer on May 26, 2007, 06:43:48 PM
Ive installed TinyXP in the past and yes its fast. The only thing I didn't like about it is the DHCP was stripped out of it so if your using DHCP or running a Wireless card it will not find an IP address on its own. I was going to use it on my Jeep computer so I could find wireless connections at hotspots, but without DHCP it wouldn't assign an IP address.

Unless of course the version of TinyXP you have does have DHCP support?
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on May 26, 2007, 10:14:10 PM
There was 1 release some time ago with DHCP stripped

this is no longer the case

my machine has a wireless nic and obtains IP via DHCP

The author does mention however he has stripped support for laptop computers (not sure how), then again he said office wouldnt run and I got that working fine.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: squirrellydw on May 29, 2007, 01:49:59 AM


I have created a ghost image which should work on anyones PC that is all setup and ready to go as per my screenshots above, if anyone wants to give it a go let me know entre siz is (396MB)

I will try it, how do I get it?
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on May 29, 2007, 02:30:38 AM
Got image ready on webserver.

email me for address tony @ 780tech . com
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: squirrellydw on May 29, 2007, 10:27:11 PM
email sent

couple questions

do I still need to download tinyxp, if not do I just burn the image to a CD and install it that way?

once it is setup what updates should I download from MS?

Thanks
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: kizer on May 30, 2007, 06:02:08 PM
Ok, heres my opinion on the updates from Microsoft. If you do not need them I would not download them. TinyXP, MiniXP and lord only knows how many others are out there. What happens is when you load them up they are a chopped down version of the OS typically generated from Nlite. When you visit the update site it looks at your OS and says hey you are missing this and that and installs it. Sorta defeats the purpose if you know what I mean. If you are looking for a specific update it wouldn't be a problem, but becareful because you might install things that are simply going to load on startup slowing things down. If you install anthing that requires the .NET framework you are going to have to look for "login automatically" in google because when you install the .NET framework it creates a user and disables the auto login stuff, which really rocks because it speeds things up and you dont have to use a login. Looking for that will help you. Looks like its already at the top of this thread.  "Make Windows type in password for you START, RUN, type: control userpasswords2"

I went from a machine that was a standard install of XP and it took 2minutes to load on a 1ghz machine to around 53seconds.

My 2ghz machine running TinyXP rev 06 takes around 33seconds from the intial power on button to sitting waiting for you to click on something.

You could also look into using hibernation instead of shutting down and starting which would speed things up tons, but its just a matter of going against the norm. ;)
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: squirrellydw on May 30, 2007, 06:12:18 PM
thanks, now I just need to find a copy of ghost.  I have it some where
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on May 30, 2007, 06:24:13 PM
if not email me
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on June 04, 2007, 09:32:36 PM
havent hear d back from you squirel how did this project go ?
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: squirrellydw on June 05, 2007, 12:16:46 AM
havent hear d back from you squirel how did this project go ?

I emailed you back, i downloaded tinyxp from the link you gave me but I havn't found my copy of ghost yet, can you help me with that?  PM me if you can.

thanks
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: squirrellydw on June 11, 2007, 01:40:01 PM
Hey Netcat, I emailed you back again and PM you.  Did you get it?
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: Barcrest on June 11, 2007, 08:26:33 PM
You maileed me dude...
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: squirrellydw on June 11, 2007, 10:06:56 PM
No I didn't did I??  I know I emailed Netcat back, its in my sent items
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on June 11, 2007, 10:47:10 PM
yikes will send agin tomorow from the office
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: squirrellydw on June 12, 2007, 12:04:02 AM
yikes will send agin tomorow from the office

Make sure you rename the .exe even if it's in a zip file.  Or give me a link please.  thanks and sorry for the trouble.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: mitze90 on September 10, 2007, 02:23:01 PM
Does anyone know wether MAMEwah, and a bunch of emulators (snes, mega drive/genisis, mame, neo geo & gba) would work ok on TinyXP?
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: Barcrest on September 11, 2007, 12:17:22 PM
Hmmm i'm thinking i should use tiny XP on my juke... Hmmm....
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: Woody on September 13, 2007, 07:16:33 PM
Barry

I just finished my new juke setup and it is running on TinyXP (used Bart PE to strip down XP). I stripped everything out and loaded the system, then loaded the motherboard video audio and lan drivers. I also did some XP Embedded hacks and then after setting everything up I dumped it all on a 4Gb flash drive (Plugs directly into IDE header), I access my library from a mapped drive so there is no hard drive in the system. You might remember some posts on "Speed Booting" from some time back, Well this thing will boot in about 10 seconds and start playing, plus when my kids and their friends start dicking with it they can't do any harm because nothing is stored on disk. The bad thing is that every time I start it it is a complete new system with no history. The read speed on this flash drive is incredible but the write speed terrible, I made sure to get it all setup the way I wanted it on a hard drive first, then wrote it all to the flash.
The XP Embedded hacks setup a virtual disk in memory for write cache to avoid writing to the flash drive

If you or anyone else is interested let me know and I will link you up with info.

BTW ... system is running a 750Mhz Duron with 512Mb memory built in nvidia graphics.
 

Woody   

     
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: AllPlay_2k5 on September 14, 2007, 07:22:00 AM
LOL...That processor is older than the one I'm currently using! It's a Duron 1.3GHz CPU with 512MB Ram and cheapo vid card. I am planning to upgrade my main system soon though. Once I do this one may become a dedicated jukebox.  :)
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: Tamsy on October 25, 2007, 09:48:26 AM
I have created a ghost image which should work on anyones PC that is all setup and ready to go as per my screenshots above, if anyone wants to give it a go let me know entre siz is (396MB)

Can i get a copy of this please?

Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: Thatoneguydavid on February 15, 2008, 01:23:10 AM
I'm having trouble finding TinyXP.  can you help me?

also,  will i need an XP license for each additional PC i want to put it on?

thank you
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on March 05, 2008, 07:38:47 PM
I have a new (updated) ghost image of my setup, if you are interested email me with subject JUKEBOX
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on March 07, 2008, 04:31:15 PM
Technically, yes you should have a separate license for each pc.

Then again Technically, I'm sure Microsoft doesnt want you using Tiny XP at all.

:)
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: jbfamilly on March 12, 2008, 03:54:22 PM
What do you guys think about a PIII 400? My old Dell is collecting dust and I thought I'd give it a try. If I can load Netcat's TinyXP image on there, hopefully it won't be too slow...
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: Barcrest on March 12, 2008, 05:16:53 PM
Well a P400 works, but how usable it would be i couldn't say. The minimum specs are really a PIII 700mhz, you don't have much to lose from testing it though.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: kizer on March 26, 2008, 09:47:58 PM
I got it to run ok on a 450 a while back. It wasn't the fastest, but its just playing music.

My 1ghz machine runs really nice, but thats about as low as Im willing to regulary use it.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on May 23, 2008, 04:19:52 PM
I have obtained a copy of tinyXP V8 (install version) ISO image just in case anyone is interested
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: Thatoneguydavid on May 23, 2008, 05:05:00 PM
i am interested.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: Cary_B on May 23, 2008, 07:13:39 PM
I'm interested also.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: Barcrest on May 25, 2008, 01:02:13 PM
Count me in  ;D
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on May 25, 2008, 01:55:57 PM
Link misteriously slipped into the ninth Dimension

If I recall correctly it may NOT be a ZIP I think I renamed just for downloading purposes, rename just to .ISO and burn on to a CD

If you want you can try to unzip and let me know I think you'll get an error. make  sure u use WINZIP as WINRAR will actually extract the contents of an ISO as if it were a compressed file thus leaving the resulting data useless (for CD burning purposes as their is CD Booting code in the ISO that would be lost)


I will leave this file here only a couple of days as Obviously uncle Bill would get most upset if he found me posting this kind of material.

feedback? recommendations? changes on my FAQ on perfect jukebox?



Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: squirrellydw on May 25, 2008, 05:41:35 PM
thanks, downloading now.  Do I just burn it to CD an install it, anything special I need to do?

thanks again
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: kizer on May 25, 2008, 08:16:09 PM
You need to find a program like imageburn that will extract the .iso file and burn its contents to a CD. Imageburn is free by the way. ;)
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: squirrellydw on May 25, 2008, 08:43:48 PM
This includes everything I need to install right?  Sorry if that is a dumb question.  I just don't want to find out I can't get it to work and then have to reinstall windows from scratch.

thanks again
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on May 26, 2008, 05:28:53 AM
Most any CD burning software can burn directly from an ISO image (NO EXTRACTING NECESSARY) as a matter of fact if you extract the files you will loose the special booting code included in the ISO.

Ez CD Creator or Nero (My favorite) will work fine and you can download a demo version of nero that will work fine at www.nero.com

As per your question regarding "everything I need" the answer is YES it performs a full instalaltion mno need for anything else.

Image is gone from my site but plenty should have it by now.

:)

Regards
.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: squirrellydw on May 26, 2008, 05:34:03 AM
cool thanks, any idea how much faster it will be?
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on May 26, 2008, 02:54:58 PM
much faster
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: kizer on May 26, 2008, 03:54:30 PM
With my 1ghz running Win2K it took longer to boot up than TinyXp does to boot and load FreeBox. ;)

The only problems I had with an older relese of Tiny and I haven't tried this one as of yet was I needed to have the drivers for my Touch screen monitor and my wireless card. Other than that it was ready to run the Juke right off the CD oh minus Freebox of course. ;)

I completely agree with Netcat on Nero and others ready to burn it. I've just alwys used ImageBurn becuase its small and quick to download.

As for speed if I remember correctly Tiny only uses about 40meg of ram.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on May 26, 2008, 05:37:19 PM
I agree 100% on everything.

I'd like to point however regarding "drivers for my Touch screen monitor and my wireless card" you would have to download/Install these regardless of what OS you are installing, to the best of my knowledge TinyXP contains the same driver database than Regular XP does and this database is not very updasted, therefore if your devices require download/install drivers in Regular XP they will in TinyXP as well.

Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: squirrellydw on June 21, 2008, 05:08:17 PM
netcat, did you run any of those scripts to remove even more stuff and if you did any idea what ones?

Thanks
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: netcat on June 21, 2008, 07:56:39 PM
I did not, but if you experiment please feel free to message me so I can update the tutorial.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: eist1 on July 17, 2008, 04:37:35 AM
If anyone is interested, here is the newest edition of TinyXP, Rev 9, which is built on SP3, with hotfixes current up to May 2008. Here is the link to the torrent http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4206516/TinyXP_Rev09_-_eXPerience (http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4206516/TinyXP_Rev09_-_eXPerience) it only took about 15 minutes to download.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: eist1 on July 17, 2008, 05:34:03 AM
Just an important note.... Make sure you don't burn the TinyXP Rev 9 image with Nero, as it will error out during install (have no idea why, I had to search the web for that answer), use something like Alcohol 120% which worked fine.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: squirrellydw on July 17, 2008, 01:35:07 PM
thanks....I thought rev 8 had sp3 also
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: eist1 on July 17, 2008, 05:41:48 PM
Looks like Rev 8 has updated hotfixes up to April 2008, Rev 9 has hotixes up to May 2008, might be the only differences.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: BigLa on July 18, 2008, 10:52:58 PM
Does this work for other people? I tried it a few weeks ago, and I couldn't get it to see my system's SATA drive during install.
Title: Re: IDEAL JUKEBOX SETUP (according to Tony)
Post by: Barcrest on July 19, 2008, 02:00:07 AM
I just use the full XP Pro for which i am licenced, i can't comment on unlicenced installs