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Title: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on November 15, 2007, 06:45:41 PM
Ok i am starting my wall mount, i have stripped down a PC and i'm currently installing XP on it as i type this. I have however found out i don't have a power supply for my screen :( So i will not be doing too much on it tonight. Still i have started....

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/2035393862_b1614ed511.jpg?v=0)

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The holes at the front will each hold a plasma plate. As you can see it's just in primer right now i have not decided on a colour yet.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: kizer on November 15, 2007, 07:40:00 PM
Is the PC going inside or on the floor under the Juke?

I think its a simple and clean design.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: draginit on November 16, 2007, 12:53:41 AM
green and yellow!  ;D
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Post by: casper on November 16, 2007, 01:06:42 AM
blue & pink  :o
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: kizer on November 16, 2007, 07:17:51 AM
Looks like Barcrest is holding out on us.  ;D
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Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: squirrellydw on November 16, 2007, 02:23:21 PM
black and blue
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on November 16, 2007, 03:51:19 PM
Black and Blue is so over done though....
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Post by: squirrellydw on November 16, 2007, 05:04:49 PM
yes it is but I think there is a reason for that.  I just looks great together.  Don't worry if it is over done, do what YOU like.  How about black and purple like the freebox logo at the top of the page :)
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: kremmit on November 18, 2007, 12:47:54 AM
What's over-done on the web and what looks good in person when you have some "mates 'round your flat" (is that right?) are two different things.  Don't be afraid of a color scheme just because a bunch of internet people have seen it before.

Do what you like and the heck with the internet commentators.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: kizer on November 18, 2007, 07:07:41 AM
Do what I do. Who cares what others think. Heck mines in a wood box and looks like crap. My wife isn't hounding me and others that try it are more impressed with the fact that it works well and don't even notice its sitting in a particle board box with holes drilled everywhere.  ;D
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: coffee on November 19, 2007, 08:46:03 PM
Finally    ;D

Looking awesome Barry
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on November 20, 2007, 12:06:09 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JciEGollf4[/youtube]

Backlighting installed for a test.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: draginit on November 20, 2007, 12:49:23 AM
haha, nice touch with the AC/DC..naturally!  great effects with the flashing. how hard is it to set something like that up? that gave me some ideas!!
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on November 20, 2007, 01:17:49 AM
It's reallyeasy they are just PC Case mod cold cathodes. They come with the sound to light unit... Casper sorted me out with them, to be honest he has pretty much sorted me out with everything.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: kizer on November 20, 2007, 08:13:17 AM
That is pretty cool. That gives me some ideas as well.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on November 23, 2007, 05:50:00 PM
Man i hooked my plasma plates tonight on sticky pads so i could see it all working... One of the plasma plates  no longer works. It was a bit dicky when i first cabled it up but now it will not come on at all. It wil flick some life if i slap the back.. So i opened it up to look for a loose connection and there is nothing obvious so now i need to get a replacment plasma plate. I'm a bit pissed off now... On the plus side i upgraded the juke to SP2 and installed the latest media player and that part is now running sweet.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: kizer on November 23, 2007, 05:58:26 PM
How did installing the update make it run sweet opposed to not so sweet?  ;D
Im a Win2K user tis why I asked.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on November 23, 2007, 06:51:44 PM
Because without running SP2 i couldn't install WMP11, that ment i couldn't go full screen for the video on the now playing screen. I am even more pissed about the plasma plate now i have seen the price of picking up a replacement.... I think i might just do a regular budget paint job on my juke now...
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on November 24, 2007, 04:14:56 AM
Because without running SP2 i couldn't install WMP11, that ment i couldn't go full screen for the video on the now playing screen. I am even more pissed about the plasma plate now i have seen the price of picking up a replacement.... I think i might just do a regular budget paint job on my juke now...
barry i'll try and sort you another one out. has you know i have stripped many of these down there is 1 red power wire only that goes to the plate and they can be very brittle and can break under the black tape near the base of the plate you may have to take the surround off altogether.  If its not working at all may be airline crack somewhere as they are very delacate. i assume youv'e tried the other adapter. just sounds like a dodgy wire there's not that much to them really.  the picture shows the wire and how brittle it can be also how delicate they are i managed to break 3 in about half an hour so be careful.

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Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on November 24, 2007, 05:49:15 PM
It is a loose wire i know this because if you tap the plate it flickers some life but it will not stay on. I have opened it up but it all seems connected on the inside.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on November 26, 2007, 03:28:32 PM
if its the broken wire near the base of the glass then there isn't much you will be able to do about it. and it will not be all that obvious to see if its broken try moving the red power wire that goes to the plate if it is that then you will need a new plate.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: craiglincs on January 22, 2008, 07:15:48 PM
Hi There Barcrest,

I just donated, love the software and would like to see if some of the bugs i am having are sorted, index out of bounds errors when adding videos etc.

Just a quick one with reference your jukebox, very very impressive, what sort of budget did you spend and where did the case come from, it looks excellent, just the sort of thing i am looking for, for my project.

Many Thanks

Craig
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on January 22, 2008, 07:42:06 PM
Your account is upgraded, good to se another brit on here. I had the chasis built for me by casper on here, i am not sure how much he will charge you but i really recommend his work. It's rock solid, all i did was install the PC and set up the software. I still have to paint it and as such, The design looks really slick and much like the ones you find in the bars here in the UK.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: craiglincs on January 22, 2008, 08:14:25 PM
Thanks very much, I will contact casper, if you are reading this casper could you perhaps PM me a quote for the same case.

much appreciated

Craig
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on January 22, 2008, 08:20:07 PM
I have mailed him for you to give him the heads up. Obviously what really finishes it off is the paint job, do a good job on that and the thing will look amazing.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: craiglincs on January 22, 2008, 08:36:24 PM
I'm excited at the thought and its my first day here lol!

out of interest, as a software engineer myself, what language is Freebox written in?

I will also be working on a skin, will post it up when finished, it'll be based on sort of mods and rockers type theme, with a lambretta type theme
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on January 22, 2008, 10:23:10 PM
Freebox is coded in Visual Basic. Look forward to seein g a new skin.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Drben on January 24, 2008, 02:56:31 PM
Lookin good Barry. I'm really looking forward to seeing it done! :D
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on January 24, 2008, 03:01:50 PM
Problem is the paint i want is $100 from the US, that isn't an issue but they want to charge me $200 shipping... WTF? I am trying to find a U.K. distibutor.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: squirrellydw on January 24, 2008, 05:41:40 PM
My guess is they are charging that much because they consider paint hazardous.  Still 200 is to much
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 07, 2008, 12:16:17 PM
nearly finished my juke same as barry's except added the led sign to the front and fans and led temp gauge on the side. allthough everything is wired up i now need to start stripping it all back down and try and get rid of the excessivly long wires. just needs a lock for the door and maybe something on the front there is a big plane area and not sure if it looks right. i forgot to switch on the sound activated lights on the side in the pics like barry's. i may add a video on youtube later.

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Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: craiglincs on February 07, 2008, 12:29:12 PM
Hi Casper,

I am looking at starting my project asap, could you tell me where I could get the fans with LED's and also the sound activated lights below.

Do you know where i might get a small amp like yours too?

Thanks

Craig
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 07, 2008, 12:40:52 PM
Hi craig   the led fans were of ebay there's plenty on i think i paid about 8 for the pair inc postage. the plasma plates i bought from comet they were 8 each but if they don't have any left expect to pay 18 each off ebay. the speaker setup is a stripped down Creative Labs Inspire 5.1 P5800 i bought off ebay i paid 20 + postage they are recons but i have had 3 sets off they same person and i can't fault the sound quality why anybody would mess about with car amps is beyond me. if you need the links let me know and i'll find them for you.  cheers casper.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: craiglincs on February 07, 2008, 12:42:10 PM
woiw, thanks for the info casper, much appreciated!

when stripped down do you use all the speakers inside the box?
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: craiglincs on February 07, 2008, 12:52:01 PM
what i meant to say was.... do you use all the speakers, including a stripped down woofer and cetre speaker?

also whats behind the plasma plates?

its still early and i need coffee! lol
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 07, 2008, 12:52:34 PM
i just use four of the five speakers and the sub. all the speakers are shielded so there is no problem where you place them in relation to your computer or screen. really easy to strip down and still look very neat. every thing is in the cab the sub is underneath the bottom of the cab and you can see the other four in the pics. i have the option and intended to connect to my home surround sound set up but there's just no point it sounds bang on already. i like to keep everything in the cab so i can use the juke elsewhere for parties ect. its not light to lug around but its managable. i disigned the juke to come off the wall really easy but it aint never gonna fall off.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: craiglincs on February 07, 2008, 12:54:35 PM
the subs underneath the bottom? still in its sub case on the floor or actually stripped and facing down in the cab?
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 07, 2008, 12:57:21 PM
the subs facing down inside the cab its just enougth for a bit of bass. ;D
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Post by: craiglincs on February 07, 2008, 01:00:37 PM
ahhh excellent!  i take it the case is made of wood?

where do all the speakers plug into, do i spot a stripped down back panel of the sub in the middle for inputs/outputs?
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 07, 2008, 01:06:30 PM
the cab itself is the sub box ther's plenty of bass with the lid down. . the pic shows the amp where everything is plugged in. thats where the sub should be but as i was limeted for room it had to be dismantled. there's also a wired remote coming out of the amp which i am going to fix to the side of the cab it controls volume bass and as a earphone input. pic qaulity not very good sorry.

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Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: craiglincs on February 07, 2008, 01:11:29 PM
ahhhhh excellent, i see how it all works now!

is the cab made of wood or metal? and cheekily, i'd like to take the project to a joiners to get the cab itself made, do you have any rough plans at all?

I'm a software engineer, I dont do DIY lol!

Thanks for all your advice, your a legend!
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 07, 2008, 01:18:55 PM
the cab is all made from 12mm mdf i can sort out the exact measurements for you. as its such a simple design you could take the measurments to b&q they will cut all the wood for you for free to the exact measurments all you would have to do is round the corners off the front panel and screw it all together. obviously you would need to cut out for your screen etc but it really is simple. let me know if you want the measurments and i'll pm them to you later.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 07, 2008, 02:20:18 PM
i forgot to add that i will also be using my betabrite sign with the cab it will go on top of the unit and show the artist and song while the one on the front of the cab shows songfacts.

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Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: craiglincs on February 07, 2008, 03:37:40 PM
that would be excellent, i'd really appreciate it!
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Post by: casper on February 07, 2008, 04:08:19 PM
i'll sort the measurements out now and send them to you.
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Post by: casper on February 07, 2008, 04:34:38 PM
measurements...http://www.flickr.com/photos/21275698@N04/2247873389/
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Post by: craiglincs on February 07, 2008, 04:52:28 PM
thanks very much!

appreciate it!
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Post by: craiglincs on February 07, 2008, 04:57:22 PM
another quick one.... the finish on your jukebox looks amazing, what type of paint is used?
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on February 07, 2008, 05:12:07 PM
Looks awsome buddy, i really like it...
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Post by: craiglincs on February 07, 2008, 06:25:06 PM
ooooh and where can i get the speaker covers you use on yours, or ones similar?

I have looked on ebay and cant find many small enough to fit the creative cones.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 07, 2008, 10:48:49 PM
the speeker covers are with the creative speekers i bought they are behind the front covers. the paint is hycote gloss black acrylic spray paint bought from any car shop 2 tins at 2.25 per tin and finished with a tin of clear lacquer spray again from my local car shop 2.50.  the paint had about 4 coats and i blathered it in lacquer i will buff it in a couple of weeks to get i nice smooth finish. i also gave it a couple of coats of black brush on primer any primer will do although mdf doesn't seem to like spray primer. the main areas to concentrate on before painting is all the edges that have been cut you will need to give it loads of primer and plenty of sanding. i'll get the other sign fitted on over the weekend i'll post some more pics on you can let me know if it looks daft.. cheers
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Post by: casper on February 07, 2008, 11:00:54 PM
Looks awsome buddy, i really like it...
cheers barry  thanx for the plans and original ideas and convincing me to go down the subtle road ;D
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Post by: craiglincs on February 08, 2008, 01:21:06 AM
it truly looks classy, just the sort of thing many people would love in their rooms as an entertainment feature!

you boys should think of mass production! hehe
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on February 08, 2008, 02:05:46 PM
Mass production maybe one day... LOL I still need to get myself sorted house wise. I have a room in a shared house now but i still don't have my belongings yet.
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Post by: craiglincs on February 08, 2008, 02:11:11 PM
Dragons den!!! haha

Any joy with the disk at all yet Barry?
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Post by: casper on February 08, 2008, 05:27:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05sv-DqFM5w
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Post by: Barcrest on February 12, 2008, 02:40:33 PM
I need to get my powerleads for my drives from a work colleagues house, she isn't in work today and isn't answering her phone :S As soon as i get those i am good to go with the drives.... I know it sounds like a stream of excuses but this shit all just went a bit pear a bit quick.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: craiglincs on February 13, 2008, 08:44:15 PM
No worries mate, just getting some flack from the boss at work who actually paid for it!

Would be great if we could get something sorted though, been over a week now.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 15, 2008, 02:11:29 PM
finally finished  ;D  Added the betabrite sign. Also added surrounds around the plasma plates to finish them off. And added the lock to the front of the cab. some pics here where the jukebox can be seen clearer than the video.http://www.flickr.com/photos/21275698@N04/2266306831/[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWZYQ1M6smQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: twarr on February 15, 2008, 09:00:18 PM
Really nice result :) Congrats!

Also, you should have the shadow dancers on that thing.. I have downloaded the v6, if you are interested.. just send me an pm :)
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: twarr on February 18, 2008, 01:19:15 PM
hi!

To everybody who wants the shadow dancers, just download this torrent: http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/3740420/Shadow_Dancers_v6.3740420.TPB.torrent

I am seeding with full speed and will do so for a couple of weeks.. :)
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: craiglincs on February 18, 2008, 04:19:02 PM
Hi Casper,

What size are your plasma plates? They look around 6 - 8" but im struggling to find any under 12"

Cheers

Craig
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Post by: draginit on February 18, 2008, 04:58:03 PM
Thanks twarr! im downloading now.  :beer
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Post by: twarr on February 18, 2008, 06:13:28 PM
np mate :)

This torrent is for the dvd, so it will be needed to encode it to xvid or something.. I was thinking of making it into xvid and then split it to pieces of like 10 minutes or so, as freebox can be set to choose a random movie for visualistation..

I really think it will be best in this way, as you will get different sequences every time then, and the file will not be so big (and harder for the computer to load). What do you think?
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 18, 2008, 07:02:08 PM
Hi Casper,

What size are your plasma plates? They look around 6 - 8" but im struggling to find any under 12"

Cheers

Craig
the plates are 6" there are some on ebay not cheap though did you try comet? 8 each last time i bought some..  paste this in ebay search         Fantastic Funky 6" plasma plate - stunning blue light
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 18, 2008, 07:08:45 PM
np mate :)

This torrent is for the dvd, so it will be needed to encode it to xvid or something.. I was thinking of making it into xvid and then split it to pieces of like 10 minutes or so, as freebox can be set to choose a random movie for visualistation..

I really think it will be best in this way, as you will get different sequences every time then, and the file will not be so big (and harder for the computer to load). What do you think?
thanks i have started the download. i think its a good idea to chop the vid into smaller sizes. will freebox show the vid even on a one screen setup? never tried running vids so its all new to me.. cheers casper
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on February 19, 2008, 10:50:28 AM
You see the vids on the now playing screen if you are running one screen.
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Post by: casper on February 19, 2008, 10:19:42 PM
can anybody tell me what format i should convert the vids to tried xvid and config won't recognize them i have used betatag . where do i put the files so that when i play a mp3 music file the vid plays? cheers for any help. also i tried some old music vids that i had used in a older version but the config will not see those either.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: craiglincs on February 20, 2008, 09:38:53 AM
I use AVI and MPEGS myself, I put all the videos in their own folder so c:\Videos\Eminem\Lose Yourself.mpg and suchlike

Yuo cannot as as far as i know play an MP3 and play an associated video at the same time, but if your playing music vids then theres no need to :D
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Post by: eist1 on February 20, 2008, 03:52:11 PM
To have videos playing while music is playing, I'd imagine you would need to somehow convert the videos to visualizations, so it would show while the song is playing, unless Barcrest has/or will add the option to have specific videos play on the visualization screen while mp3's are playing.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: coffee on February 20, 2008, 08:52:46 PM
Hi to all.

Yeah, it would be cool  to play a random video while a mp3 is playing. A problem I have with visualizations is that sometimes when a mp3 start you can access the taskbar. ( I don't know if anybody els had this problem ) If you can play a random video while playing a mp3 you can also use this function to display video adds which is always a good marketing tool and it will be very usefull for commercial operaters.
With this video adds you can also show new functions about Freebox and how to use it. That will be pretty cool too.
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Post by: squirrellydw on February 26, 2008, 05:24:21 AM
downloading now,

thanks
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 26, 2008, 01:42:47 PM
To have videos playing while music is playing, I'd imagine you would need to somehow convert the videos to visualizations, so it would show while the song is playing, unless Barcrest has/or will add the option to have specific videos play on the visualization screen while mp3's are playing.
does anyone know of a way to convert the vids to visualization or if there is any such software that can do it. otherwise really there is not much point to useing the shadow dancer vids or am i missing something? i think coffee as the right idea with freebox having the ability to play random vids while a mp3 is playing either for adds or showing new functions maybe showing how freebox works while there is no song selected. cheers
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on February 27, 2008, 12:51:09 AM
You need a vis that will play videos, i don't know if there is one. However it is not possible to play videos while a ong is playing due to the media player being used to play the song. So you need a vis to do it or it's usless.
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Post by: squirrellydw on February 27, 2008, 01:51:30 AM
Does anyone know of any FREE software that will convert a mpeg to a vis?  If so I can make it.
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Post by: eist1 on February 27, 2008, 04:35:23 AM
Here's the link for Microsoft's Visualization SDK

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/aa393409.aspx (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/aa393409.aspx)
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Post by: Barcrest on February 27, 2008, 11:28:38 AM
Because i'm a cheap skate and the paint was like 100 i thought i would cover the front of my juke in vinyl, also because i am an inpatient dumbass it didn't work right. I got the vinyl on and cut it ok but it didn't stick right and when i woke up this morning it was full off bubbles.... Stupid Vinyl i knew i should have gone with paint.  :tommy
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Post by: squirrellydw on February 27, 2008, 03:14:13 PM
Here's the link for Microsoft's Visualization SDK

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/aa393409.aspx (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/aa393409.aspx)

I will look at this if and when I get a new PC since my laptop died last night.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 27, 2008, 07:47:43 PM
Because i'm a cheap skate and the paint was like 100 i thought i would cover the front of my juke in vinyl, also because i am an inpatient dumbass it didn't work right. I got the vinyl on and cut it ok but it didn't stick right and when i woke up this morning it was full off bubbles.... Stupid Vinyl i knew i should have gone with paint.  :tommy
what did you use to stick it with? did you wrap it over the front of the door and staple it at the back. i never thought about using vinyl could have saved me alot of time sanding & primering.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on February 27, 2008, 09:18:48 PM
It was brushed metal stickyback stuff i brought from B&Q, only 10 and it looked good if it wasn't for the bubbles...
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Post by: Woody on February 28, 2008, 04:13:44 AM
I had an similar problem. I did a custom overlay on printshop and went to have it printed at Kinkos, I talked to the dude there about something that would hold up to alot of touching (it is a touchscreen) and he turned me on to a heavy vinyl that could be photo quality printed on. It was the bomb when i picked it up and looked great after I applied it to the the face board, the next morning it had several bubbles in it and I tried everything to get rid of them. I used a syringe to prick thru the vinyl an draw out the air then I used an iron (very low setting) to try to help with adhesion. That worked to remove most of them but some came back. I talked to a couple people about it and they seemed to think that there are trapped solvent gasses between the material and the board. One friend does vinyl flooring and he said it happens alot on that if you dont allow enough time for the glue to evaporate (should be just dry to the touch) when the surfaces are mated.Too much glue can be a bad thing as well. I wish I had talked to him prior to doing my project, I did rush the job and probably used too much adhesive.

Oh well, live and learn,

Woody

P.S. I will probably give my prototype to my brother and ty again.


 

       
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on February 28, 2008, 02:45:05 PM
I am thinking of starting again... It's all bubbled up now, and although not a total right off it just looks cheap.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on February 28, 2008, 04:04:52 PM
I am thinking of starting again... It's all bubbled up now, and although not a total right off it just looks cheap.
sounds like a total ball ache are you going to try and recover with vinyl or do something else with it you might be better of painting it. but i would imagine that to also be a ball ache trying to get all the glue of and sanding it back to its original state. good luck barry :tommy
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on February 29, 2008, 12:44:46 PM
Yeah it has gone a bit wrong for me :s
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on March 17, 2008, 10:55:40 PM
Here is the juke with a new 19" touchscreen fitted. The overlay was bought off ebay for 40 absolute bargain. the screen works perfectly probably better than the original 15" touch screen that was installed. Whilst installing the screen i managed to rip the wires out of the powermate for a second time only this time its un-repairable :tommy So i am on the look out for a new one but can't seem to found one under 40 which is 3x what i paid for mine. When i do manage to get hold of one i will leave the wires coming out of the side and not bother trying to get them to come out of the bottom. which as been the reason why the wires ripped out so easy.

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Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: eist1 on March 18, 2008, 05:04:56 AM
Casper,

The jukebox looks great!! As for the Powermate, didn't the one you bought come with a USB extension cable? The one I bought had a 12" extention cable, it was about 2 feet long with the extension. Good job.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on March 18, 2008, 05:41:57 AM
Casper,

The jukebox looks great!! As for the Powermate, didn't the one you bought come with a USB extension cable? The one I bought had a 12" extention cable, it was about 2 feet long with the extension. Good job.
Cheers eist
The usb cable was plenty long enough but when i was installing the screen and tidying up the wiring the power mate cable must have snagged on something inside the juke so when i opened the lid it ripped the wires out of the back of the knob. It wouldn't have done it any other time it was because all the wires going to the door of the juke were hanging loose while i fitted the screen cables. I could have soildered it normally but there is a crack in the circuit board. Ah well just managed to buy one from ebay 22 so its not has bad as i thought. The screen looks massive compared to the last one and i think it suits the juke more. ;D
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: squirrellydw on March 18, 2008, 01:08:15 PM
I like it, very clean  :beer
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on March 18, 2008, 01:56:57 PM
How does the software look on your 19" as i have noticed you got the wide screen one (Which is all i could find the overlays for as well) as opposed to the 4:3 aspect ratio of standard 19" TFT Screens. I am suspecting it looks stretched at 1024 x 768.

I was thinking of adding a 19" to the bottom of my juke under the 15" touchscreen and using it as the second display for the VIS and Videos but I have all but given up on mine now. I just don't have anywhere to work on it and i just don't think i can make it look how i want it.

So then the real question is when are you taking orders dude...  :beer
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on March 18, 2008, 08:36:18 PM
How does the software look on your 19" as i have noticed you got the wide screen one (Which is all i could find the overlays for as well) as opposed to the 4:3 aspect ratio of standard 19" TFT Screens. I am suspecting it looks stretched at 1024 x 768.

I was thinking of adding a 19" to the bottom of my juke under the 15" touchscreen and using it as the second display for the VIS and Videos but I have all but given up on mine now. I just don't have anywhere to work on it and i just don't think i can make it look how i want it.

So then the real question is when are you taking orders dude...  :beer
Although the software is stretched it would only looked stretched to someone who's been using it on a 4.3 screen otherwise you wouldn't know if the software was for 4.3 or 16.9 screens. I thought i may have to tinker with the skin to make it look right but its perfect as it is. i'm not sure a big sqaure 19" screen would suit our cabs barry so if you get chance to grab a overlay at 40 it might be worth considering.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on March 18, 2008, 10:49:40 PM
I was thinking of mounting it vertically and altering the skin to fit so i could get a lot more album covers on... So many ideas an no time to impliment any of them.... Anyway you never gave me a price on a cab the same as yours... ;)
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on March 19, 2008, 12:35:51 AM
Barry   You wouldn't want to know a price the same has mine :tommy. I take it you have not been able to get anything done with the juke after the vinyl disaster.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on March 19, 2008, 04:56:40 PM
No not really... Have you seen the new converted NSM cabs appearing in bars? They have a plasma plate dead center under the screen. I have seen them in 2 bars so far and they don't look like an offical NSM conversion but they were identical and a good job. Digital Storm i think they are called... Need to look on the web to see if they are offical.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: casper on March 19, 2008, 08:32:09 PM
No not really... Have you seen the new converted NSM cabs appearing in bars? They have a plasma plate dead center under the screen. I have seen them in 2 bars so far and they don't look like an offical NSM conversion but they were identical and a good job. Digital Storm i think they are called... Need to look on the web to see if they are offical.
Iv'e just had a look at them on the web. they do look nice and only 3 grand each but they do have a 80gig hard drive so probably worth it lol. they are nice though. doesn't mention what enviroment they can be used in. iv,e not come across them personally but that maybe because iv,e not been in a pub since 1978 ;D
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: Barcrest on March 20, 2008, 03:54:20 PM
http://www.jukebox45s.com/heron-digital-jukebox-software-screen-shots.htm

Look at the quality of the software it runs.... I would not be spending 3 grand on that.
Title: Re: Barcrest's Wall Mount...
Post by: TeamTEOR on March 31, 2008, 06:18:37 PM
Hey guys, speaking of vinyl..... I am not sure how many of you are into Remote Control Airplanes, but there use a plastic coating for their wood parts and it is ironed on, and it shrinks tight. You might want to look up some of this stuff for future projects. The Company name is "Top Flite" and the product is called "MonoKote". It is pretty thick stuff, and not to hard to work with.

This is a US company that stocks it, and I link you only so you can see all of the many colors.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0091P?&C=QAA&V=TOP

I believe a company called Perkins in the UK would stock something along the same lines.

Tom