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E-Touch Skins => Skin Support => Topic started by: DaDuber on October 24, 2013, 03:25:37 PM

Title: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 24, 2013, 03:25:37 PM
I made a new skin in photoshop. It is 1600X900. I am not sure how to make it work or if it can be done. I wanted to use some png extensions, but they don't seam to work . If anyone could help me that would be great. I need it to work with version 8 the latest beta, I can give u the photoshop file. Here is a preview

(http://www.daduber.com/skin-blacknyellow.jpg)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 24, 2013, 03:38:05 PM
That looks cool, you need to export the buttons with a solid colour background as a bmp you can then import them into the skin tool... I am hoping to support PNG down the line.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: jukejohn on October 24, 2013, 04:15:04 PM
 :beer
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 24, 2013, 07:03:24 PM
I am using the black and blue with letters skin as a template. How can I re-size the section that says make a selection. I would like it to be smaller so I can fit the top buttons.

Thanks
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: ecbrad on October 25, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
This has a nice cartoony feel with little clutter. Me likey =)

Brad
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 25, 2013, 08:23:22 AM
I am using the black and blue with letters skin as a template. How can I re-size the section that says make a selection. I would like it to be smaller so I can fit the top buttons.

Thanks

In the skin tool you click it and alter it's height and width as you do for any of the items.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 25, 2013, 03:27:20 PM
I goto the texture viewer and add the makeselection.gif then it shows up in the big window that has no name. What window do I use to change the width and height?
also is there a tutorial anywhere how to use this?


Thanks....
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 25, 2013, 04:19:27 PM
Figured out how to re-size (click in item then under tools menu). My problem now is how to get rid of the pop up menu and just make the buttons across the top and bottom of the home screen.



Thanks
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 26, 2013, 11:15:06 AM
The manual for the skintool is included with the release, it's not 100% complete but it covers enough to get you up and running.

Skintool Manual.docx

It's in the folder you installed E-touch in.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 28, 2013, 05:58:26 PM
I got some of the skin done and working. I have a few questions maybe someone could help me with.
questions are in pic below:

(http://www.daduber.com/JBhelp.jpg)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: GlennCarnell on October 28, 2013, 06:18:20 PM
Just about everything you see in the skin tool can be moved, if theres something you don't want to see, (ever) just move it right till you cant see it any more, but do not delete the file from the skin folder or you will get error messages when ever you open the skin tool
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 28, 2013, 07:56:59 PM
It wont let me drag the background or replace it for the player controls. The buttons in the pop out menu I still want, I just don't want a popup menu. I want them permanently there and up top.

Thanks....
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: ecbrad on October 29, 2013, 04:24:54 AM
Don't you just de-select the popup menu in the theme?

Brad
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 29, 2013, 02:24:51 PM
Where at? I found where I take the popup out of player controls but I dont know how to remove popup menu

(http://www.daduber.com/jb3.jpg)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 31, 2013, 02:00:51 PM
Still can't figure it out. Any help greatly appreciated. I can post the skin so far if it helps.

Thanks......
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: GlennCarnell on October 31, 2013, 06:19:39 PM
Still can't figure it out. Any help greatly appreciated. I can post the skin so far if it helps.

Thanks......

OK I think you have to open the jukebox and navigate to options, Button settings and untick the display pop-up menu
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 31, 2013, 07:01:08 PM
Still can't figure it out. Any help greatly appreciated. I can post the skin so far if it helps.

Thanks......

OK I think you have to open the jukebox and navigate to options, Button settings and untick the display pop-up menu

The pop up menu will always show in the skin tool so you can skin it but you will see there are also buttons for the normal menu on the screen. It might be the skin you have based yours off has moved them off screen. You can delete the menu.ini to reset them to default and you should see them then.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 31, 2013, 08:25:00 PM
That brought another menu up and helped. Still a few more questions:

(http://www.daduber.com/jb/jb4.jpg)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: GlennCarnell on October 31, 2013, 09:32:56 PM
That brought another menu up and helped. Still a few more questions:

(http://www.daduber.com/jb/jb4.jpg)

To remove the white background that's showing you need to resize that in the skintool and as far as I know you cant have two queue buttons.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on November 01, 2013, 01:15:58 PM
How do I remove the gray gradient background and the black on the player controls. Or replace it?


Thanks...
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on November 01, 2013, 02:20:51 PM
How do I remove the gray gradient background and the black on the player controls. Or replace it?


Thanks...

You have to replace it, you can use the grab menu and player background button to grab what is behind it as an image. Sorry for the delay in my replies, I'm not really up on the skin tool (Yeah i know i made it) as I have not worked on skins for a long while and I'm currently devoting all the time to getting the main app running.

You can't have 2 queue buttons on the screen only one.

You need to change the button styles to 5 and 7 IIRC to remove the gradient background.

I do really like this skin BTW, top notch.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on November 01, 2013, 03:53:46 PM
Sorry about all the questions.. I changed the backgrounds and changed the buttons to style 7.
The buttons have little white marks on top is there anyway to remove this?
How do I change the background on main page? the top is ok the black part below I need to change.
How can I have more buttons across the bottom or make the popup menu always there?

Thank You
Here it is so far:

(http://www.daduber.com/jb/jb5.png)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on November 01, 2013, 05:08:36 PM
Those little white marks are because some of the button is getting removed. Make the background of the button image a colour that isn't used on the button and they will go away. That menu should have the full set of buttons so it looks like you need to click in the background and expand the box to see the other buttons, they must be off screen.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on November 01, 2013, 07:17:57 PM
I still get the white on the outside of buttons. Trying to figure out how to make it smoother. I have a few more questions, hopefully someone can answer:

(http://www.daduber.com/jb/jb6.jpg)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on November 02, 2013, 01:36:57 PM
Use that top menu you have and make it taller so you can have the buttons down the bottom as well. That should work.

change the back colour to black on the buttons to help with that edge issue.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on November 04, 2013, 04:18:44 PM
Here's what I tried in skin tool:
(http://www.daduber.com/jb/juke2.jpg)
and heres what it looks like:
(http://www.daduber.com/jb/juke1.jpg)
It doesn't show the buttons on the bottom or side. Must be below the layer?
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on November 04, 2013, 09:30:35 PM
Yeah it would only work if you made the album page narrower so the bottom buttons would be visible.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on November 05, 2013, 02:28:14 PM
so is there any way to have where it says close menu always be open?

Thanks
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on November 05, 2013, 05:02:52 PM
so is there any way to have where it says close menu always be open?

Thanks

You want the pop up menu always displayed? I could make a change for the next beta, let me take a look.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on November 05, 2013, 05:22:56 PM
I just want to be able to put the buttons on the top and bottom. Whatever is easiest for you would be great.

Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on November 12, 2013, 03:39:06 PM
Any luck on making the popup always there? Also I can't seem to change the background on the main screen, I tried changing a few images but its still black.

Thanks
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on November 12, 2013, 03:41:04 PM
Not made the change yet as I am trying to fix the other albums by: listing for those seeing label 18... After that I would look at making the skin change for you.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on November 18, 2013, 07:50:54 PM
(http://www.daduber.com/jb/hothits.jpg)
I have a few more problems I can't figure out. The skin works on V9. If someone wants to help me finish it I can upload it.
Thanks....
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on November 18, 2013, 10:10:53 PM
Are you going with png files as I make the changes? I will check why that font doesn't keep the colour for the next alpha.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on November 19, 2013, 02:16:46 PM
Right now they are gif's but after I get it working I may change them. Also it looks better in v9 theres no ring around the top buttons.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on November 19, 2013, 02:45:28 PM
Right now they are gif's but after I get it working I may change them. Also it looks better in v9 theres no ring around the top buttons.

Yeah but they have no transparency so the background is also shown, which is why you would want to use transparent PNG's for those. This is the reason for moving to the new control, also the memory leak in the old one was a PITA.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on November 19, 2013, 04:23:20 PM
I changed a few buttons to png, but when I go to skin tool and try to use the png's they dont show up in file list. if I type it in then it just freezes the skin tool.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on November 19, 2013, 04:32:49 PM
I changed a few buttons to png, but when I go to skin tool and try to use the png's they dont show up in file list. if I type it in then it just freezes the skin tool.

Yeah you have to manually edit the ini file right now and it will only work with the V9 Alpha, it will not load back into the skin tool with the PNG. I am going to make an updated skintool that saves out seperate ini's for V9, hopefully for the next alpha.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on November 19, 2013, 05:10:15 PM
I manually changed the 4 buttons at the top and they look good.

(http://www.daduber.com/jb/lg.jpg)

I will start changing images to png's. I'm still unable to figure out how to change background on home page.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on June 23, 2014, 02:51:36 PM
So I decided to try to finish this skin for the newest version(9).
I had it working before on an earlier version a few months back just needed a few changes. Now some of the buttons don't work (like the back after you click on album). So I downloaded eist1's 16X9 skins and they do the same thing.

Should I just start over? There are no skins that are 16x9 that currently work. I originally just used his skin and changed everything over. How can I get a template for 16X9?

Thanks.....
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on June 24, 2014, 07:31:00 AM
So I decided to try to finish this skin for the newest version(9).
I had it working before on an earlier version a few months back just needed a few changes. Now some of the buttons don't work (like the back after you click on album). So I downloaded eist1's 16X9 skins and they do the same thing.

Should I just start over? There are no skins that are 16x9 that currently work. I originally just used his skin and changed everything over. How can I get a template for 16X9?

Thanks.....

It's not easy for me to test those skins out but I am assuming something is over the top of the back button like the banner image most likely. Are you using the latest beta? If you hover the mouse over the button do you see a tooltip box pop up? If not something is sitting over the button which is why you can't click it.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on June 26, 2014, 02:09:52 PM
Ye that was the problem, but there are a few other things not working right.
Anyone that knows about the skin tool wanna help me get this working? I can upload files and finish the graphics.

Here it is so far:
http://daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters_PNG_V9(1600x900).zip (http://daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters_PNG_V9(1600x900).zip)
Thanks...
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on June 27, 2014, 07:51:08 AM
Ye that was the problem, but there are a few other things not working right.
Anyone that knows about the skin tool wanna help me get this working? I can upload files and finish the graphics.

Here it is so far:
http://daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters_PNG_V9(1600x900).zip (http://daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters_PNG_V9(1600x900).zip)
Thanks...

I am taking a look now to see if I can get it working.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on June 27, 2014, 01:20:51 PM
Thanks!

If you get it working I will finish the graphics and change to png's. Then re-upload it.  Also I was trying to get rid of bottom popup menu and just make the buttons there all the time.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on June 27, 2014, 10:26:28 PM
Thanks!

If you get it working I will finish the graphics and change to png's. Then re-upload it.  Also I was trying to get rid of bottom popup menu and just make the buttons there all the time.

Didn't realise it was widescreen, will have to wait until monday when i can get hold of a widescreen monitor and take a look.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on July 01, 2014, 04:29:27 PM
fixed a few things and changed some to pngs
http://www.daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters_PNG_V9(16x9)%20-%20NEW.zip (http://www.daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters_PNG_V9(16x9)%20-%20NEW.zip)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on July 10, 2014, 01:15:10 PM
Barry,
Did you get a chance to look at this? I really need a widescreen skin for latest version. Or if anyone else could help me get it working. Would really appreciate it.

Thanks.....
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on July 10, 2014, 03:44:49 PM
Sorry I still have not had chance to get hold of a widescreen. I'm ill at the moment, hopefully monday all being well.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: tharrrison on July 20, 2014, 04:29:29 PM
hey guys new to this im trying to play around with the skins. there is only a couple of things i want to change on the basic skin. can anyone do it for me? and is there anywhere i can download other skins from?
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: jonfinpausa on August 17, 2014, 10:46:47 AM
Where is this skin project? Is someone still working on it? I really like and prefer the clean simple look without all the busy eye candy.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on August 20, 2014, 09:43:59 PM
I'm still trying to get it working on the new version. any help would be appreciated
thanks.....
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Risim on August 20, 2014, 11:48:30 PM
What version are you talking about?  If its v9 I just asked barry.  I think you will have to edit the v_2.ini so that all of the buttons are png instead of gif.  Lets wait and see whar Barry says first.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Risim on August 21, 2014, 02:43:54 AM
Ok I got my working.  Just load your skin to v9 save it ,then go to the skin folder find the files ending in  v2.ini.almost all of the files should have then.  Edit the v2.ini replace .gif for .png for every file.  Dont forget you have to have png version of your gif buttons.  Reload the skin you should see the seemless png button now.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on August 21, 2014, 09:55:10 AM
Ok I got my working.  Just load your skin to v9 save it ,then go to the skin folder find the files ending in  v2.ini.almost all of the files should have then.  Edit the v2.ini replace .gif for .png for every file.  Dont forget you have to have png version of your gif buttons.  Reload the skin you should see the seemless png button now.

This is correct.

Please note that the proper V9 skintool will not support loading of legacy skins so they will need to be created from the ground up. Loading of none V2 ini files will be dropped.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on August 21, 2014, 03:09:49 PM
Are you talking about this skin? Do you have it working correctly? I have it partially working. some things don't work like audio video karaoke. If you have it working more than me can you upload it and i'll try to finish it

Thanks
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on August 21, 2014, 03:16:11 PM
Are you talking about this skin? Do you have it working correctly? I have it partially working. some things don't work like audio video karaoke. If you have it working more than me can you upload it and i'll try to finish it

Thanks

I am on about the changes i am making to the skintool sorry, seems like there are 2 conversations happening at the same time.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: jonfinpausa on August 22, 2014, 08:29:06 AM
Is there a semi working copy of this skin for version 9? If so could someone please post it so I can make an attempt to help develop the skin?
Thanks
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on August 22, 2014, 09:10:37 AM
Is there a semi working copy of this skin for version 9? If so could someone please post it so I can make an attempt to help develop the skin?
Thanks

The link is in the post at the top of this page.

I don't have access to a widescreen monitor still, I just read back through this thred and forgot a lot of what went on. I am working 100% on the skintool now and once that is converted over to fully support PNG I think it will not take long to get this skin up to V9 spec. I have now completed the playlist save screen, it's taking me about a day per screen so far.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on August 22, 2014, 04:29:12 PM
Barry. That's my link (lol). I just though someone downloaded it and made it work fully or more


Thanks....
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: jonfinpausa on August 22, 2014, 10:30:36 PM
Thanks, I missed that link  :o
I also missed this was for a wide screen so I will have to redesign the entire thing as I don't have any wide touch screens either. :tommy

Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on August 25, 2014, 02:24:27 PM
Barry. That's my link (lol). I just though someone downloaded it and made it work fully or more


Thanks....

That is what he was after.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on September 30, 2015, 03:14:35 PM
I was thinking about trying to get this to work again. When I load it up now its way off. I tried opening in in the latest skin tool and it doesn't let me open up any skins but the default or create a new skin. Is there something I'm doing wrong or is it not working fully yet for version 9?

thanks....
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on September 30, 2015, 04:16:33 PM
I had that problem but then I deleted the default skins and then tried the skin tool, this seemed to cure the problem and even with the skins back in the folder skin tool works how it should.

Try that first and if you get any problems after that I am here all night.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on September 30, 2015, 06:18:00 PM
That Didn't work for me. It just shows popup that says text1 and a button that says new skin and if I push it it does nothing
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on September 30, 2015, 07:47:10 PM
I did have that issue myself is the skin tool giving you any skins to load now or is it blank? If it is blank box, then you need to click in the blank box at the top to create a new skin. I have done a video here somewhere I will try and find it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEbYy7Ehi5E hope this helps if you do have a blank box now.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 01, 2015, 07:20:05 AM
Open up E-touch and update the skin list and save and exit, you should then see the skin in the list of skins in the skintool. You also need to run it as admin.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 01, 2015, 02:35:22 PM
I was able to make anew skin using mark's tutorial, but I can't get anything working the way I want. I will try a little more later but I may just quit on it. If anyone would like to help I have most of graphics made.
one problem I'm having:

it looks like this in skin tool:
(http://daduber.com/jb/skintool.jpg)

but when I open juke it looks like this:
(http://daduber.com/jb/e-look.jpg)
the top navigation doesn't show or any of albums
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 01, 2015, 02:45:51 PM
Look in one of the skins you will have an image file called ImageNotFound.jpg either copy that from another skin or make your own, but if your skin is black, make the ImageNotFound a white square 300 x 300

The reason why I say this is obviously common sense black square on black background will not show.

This should cure your first problem.

Also on skintool file settings make sure that you have show 5 albums, 10 albums or how many you want and that you have a cover file.

If you get problems just let me know and I can make a video to sort out problems, the first video I done was just a quick one and not very detailed but give it a go and don't give up as you will learn tricks and tips on how to do things.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 01, 2015, 03:04:54 PM
The file called ImageNotFound.jpg is already there.
the albums weren't showing cause the default screen was history I fixed that.
thanks for your help.. still no navigation though
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 01, 2015, 03:21:45 PM
The best way of describing it is like html if you have ever done that before, you need frames, or a repeating pattern in textures.

The best advice I can give you currently is load slxx into the jukebox and save as default skin. Load skin tool and then look at the textures and then go through each page.

For navigation you can have it on main screen or album view, but you need to have it so for example your skin size is 800 x 600 you place the navigation at the top for example, but if you cover that page with a graphic where you cannot see the navigation bar you will not be able to use navigation.

So navigation 100 x 600 and then rest of the page 700 x 600. It really depends upon the design and also if you have it main or album view.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 01, 2015, 03:38:12 PM
I have the navigation on top left but it doesn't show. it shows in skin tool but not in jukebox. also I can't figure out which background is used for the alum view? the one that says album view isn't it.

you can see the white space here:

(http://daduber.com/jb/albumback.jpg)

any more help greatly appreciated.
thanks...
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 01, 2015, 03:43:41 PM
Null is the main one really load your page into null and album view. Always make sure that you save the skin after you have made changes as well so that it will remember the placement. I am away from my monitor at the moment but I can still see the screen and can access skin tool as well if needed.

At this time of day the sunlight hits my windows so it is uncomfortable to sit there so have to switch to the TV.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 02, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
Thanks for your help. Still no luck with the navigation at the top left. Just doesn't show up. I'm working on the track listing screen and I don't see where or how I can get it to show tracks of each album. it just shows nothing.

thanks....
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 02, 2015, 03:12:13 PM
I will sort out a video if need be, but try and remember that each page is like a piece of paper.

If you have an A4 piece of paper and then you draw your menu on that paper, and then you take another A4 piece of paper and you draw another picture on that, and then you put that paper above your menu it will not show as you have another picture in front of it.

I can do a video if need be to show you, but if you have your navigation on the main screen at top left you need to account for small pages so that the navigation is always on top

NAVIGATION SCREEN NAVIGATION SCREEN NAVIGATION SCREEN NAVIGATION SCREEN NAVIGATION SCREEN NAVIGATION SCREEN NAVIGATION SCREEN (Bar at the top 100 in height)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE (Your main page 700 in height)

Hope this makes some sense.

TRACK LISTING
-----------------

Make sure that you have number of tracks shown on files/controls settings go to TOOLS > Track Listing Screen

It will show boxes and also text if you have put a background which is black in your textures, the font is default of black, so black and black you cannot see anything. So have a white background or an opposite colour to what you are doing or maybe just a light pastel colour that will show black and then what ever colour you change your font colour too.

Once you have made your main changes such as font size and colour, then import your design into the textures and then you can move them into place.

Regards

Mark


Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 02, 2015, 03:20:29 PM
It shows up in the skin tool the way I want but doesn't in the jukebox. Maybe its something that needs to be enabled? I can give you the files if you think its something simple I.m doing wrong

http://daduber.com/jb/Black-n-Yellow%2016x9.zip (http://daduber.com/jb/Black-n-Yellow%2016x9.zip)

also the listing of tracks.  thanks...
if I ever get it working right will definitely  post final version for people to download.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 02, 2015, 03:28:01 PM
Ok just downloading the images, so what I will do is create a new skin and use your images and do a video for you. Hopefully I wont be too long.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 02, 2015, 03:37:07 PM
Thanks a lot. You've been a lot of help so far. If you need any other images I can give them to you. I don't think i've made every button so far
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 02, 2015, 03:38:06 PM
I will do a video later as I have the sun in my eyes now so it is uncomfortable, but I can see what is wrong

You have no tracks to show on file controls/settings. You need to find NUMBER OF TRACKS SHOWN and then use the pull down to select at least 1 track.

Your background is black which is not going to help you.

That is one problem solved.

You also had KEEP QUEUE SHOWN ticked when I loaded the skin up. Untick that remember that page will cover anything you have underneath.

It looks as if you are trying to use the pop up menu as your navigation bar. I do not think that you can use that for navigation as it is called pop up menu for a reason.

If your navigation is on the album view, when you go to album view to edit that page, you will have menu options on that page. If you wish to use them at the top left, you would need to make it so the album view is your default screen so your icons are always at the top, and then as I say adjust the other pages to be a frame of that album view.

So your main view at all times or at least once is that album view so you would be creating a frame as I said earlier, as long as the options are at the top, and you put your other pages underneath that, then it will always show.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 02, 2015, 05:41:12 PM
It shows up in the skin tool the way I want but doesn't in the jukebox. Maybe its something that needs to be enabled? I can give you the files if you think its something simple I.m doing wrong

http://daduber.com/jb/Black-n-Yellow%2016x9.zip (http://daduber.com/jb/Black-n-Yellow%2016x9.zip)

also the listing of tracks.  thanks...
if I ever get it working right will definitely  post final version for people to download.

It might be that you were editing the pop up menu and not the normal menu, I can't check now but i will have more time tomorrow.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 05, 2015, 05:17:24 PM
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It might be that you were editing the pop up menu and not the normal menu, I can't check now but i will have more time tomorrow.

How can I tell the difference?
also how can I get the jump to letter on main screen I checked "Jump to button on main screen" but still see nothing.

Thanks
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 05, 2015, 05:25:03 PM
The main way of telling the difference is in the screens to edit, at the bottom you have got pop up menu, this will take you to the pop up menu editing screen.

As for jump to letter on screen, make sure that have your alphabetical files actually on the screen and that they are linked to your graphics. The editing screen will show you red orbs, but those graphics will not show for some reason unless you have linked each and every image.

I personally have not done letters on the main screen so I would have to jump on the computer and try that out myself. I personally am not a fan of seeing the letters on the screen and what I am skinning at the moment is completely different to what you see in the skins section at the moment, it is nice to think outside of the box, and the skin tool allows you to be able to that, otherwise if all the skins became the same then it would be boring.

I am here on and off all night anyway as sat down watching some tv shows at the moment, so I will keep checking back.

I will say this that don't be put off by mistakes made, mistakes are good as we learn by them and improve. I am only learning myself really but things are pretty straight forward once things click into place. The worse things that I found was when trying to skin and then a bug was here and that stopped me from doing what I wanted to do but the bug got sorted so I moved on doing more pages.

If you do get really stuck on something just say and I can do a video.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 05, 2015, 05:34:22 PM
I guess I am editing the popup menu because it shows up in skin tool when I go to popup menu in drop down.
How can I get to the non pop up menu?
thanks...
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 05, 2015, 06:03:05 PM
When you first create a skin certain pages have certain items contained within those pages. If you are like me when I first started I was throwing boxes left right and centre off the screen thinking that I would not need them, later on did I find that I actually needed those boxes.

I just loaded up your skin and then put navigation as on album view and I moved some of your album covers away and I found the following hidden underneath

Random songs and also new songs.

There should be more buttons for that screen so you might have hidden them or moved them off the screen.  You should be seeing buttons for A to Z, Audio, Video, Karaoke, Radio unless they are turned off within your skin, no just checked and you have all the right buttons ticked in admin and then button settings.

You might have removed them off the screen.

One tip that I will give you, is that I started the same skin quite a few times because I moved icons off screen when I needed them. It is better to get the buttons in place first before you worry too much regarding placements or textures.

I have said before but as you are doing a black skin I personally would have a white texture so that I can edit the fonts so that they are the right colour when you do add your textures otherwise the fonts are hidden due to being black.



Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 05, 2015, 06:35:39 PM
I just created a new skin and went to album view first. I don't see the a-z buttons on this either. I see some of the other buttons and the button for the popup menu which bring up my menu that was missing. I dont want to have the menu pop up. I need it to always be there. Can I change the setting to have it always there? How can I get the jump to letters to show?
thanks...
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 05, 2015, 06:59:48 PM
No sadly the pop up menu is really only that when the menu button is hit, then it brings that page up. I cannot see Barry changing that but if you ask then you will have a better answer from him.

On the file control/ settings you have jump to letters, you can adjust that to show the letters where you want, I just changed it to letters on album view and letters popped up there.

However when I set the jump to button on main menu, it only shows a box saying jump to letter.

You need to treat the album view as your main screen and then adjust your skin to fit around this so for letters on the main screen, you will need to adjust your album view so that it is larger and more important.

I know it is a bit confusing and backwards in respects as like you would think that main screen would be more editable and be MAIN SCREEN as it suggests, still he is a brummie and they always do things backwards lol

Regards

Mark
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 06, 2015, 08:34:14 AM
If you don't want the pop up menu just use the normal menu, that is displayed all the time. The pop up menu was for those that want less clutter on the main screen.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 06, 2015, 02:00:09 PM
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If you don't want the pop up menu just use the normal menu, that is displayed all the time. The pop up menu was for those that want less clutter on the main screen.

How do I get to that menu. I made a new skin and I don't see that in there.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 06, 2015, 02:06:08 PM
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If you don't want the pop up menu just use the normal menu, that is displayed all the time. The pop up menu was for those that want less clutter on the main screen.

How do I get to that menu. I made a new skin and I don't see that in there.

The normal menu is that used in the included skins where the buttons are shown all the time. You can select it from the dropdown.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 06, 2015, 02:23:39 PM

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If you don't want the pop up menu just use the normal menu, that is displayed all the time. The pop up menu was for those that want less clutter on the main screen.

Quote
How do I get to that menu. I made a new skin and I don't see that in there.

Quote
The normal menu is that used in the included skins where the buttons are shown all the time. You can select it from the dropdown.

Ok. I'm assuming that its Genre Selection Bar in menu. if I am right in my skin its just a button. Can I copy some of the ini files from one of the other skins to make it into a window?
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 06, 2015, 03:40:26 PM
Barry will be able to say regarding the ini files but looking at your design the first image you want the following

Pop Up Menu

Letters

Albums

Menu bar

You do have a button in the menu bar for pop up menu, which once pressed then you can have it shown where you want it placed. At the moment it cannot be shown all of the time.

I am not sure if Barry will change this at some point or have it so that it has an option to always display the pop up menu.

At the moment I would have to say that you need to work with what you have rather than what you do not have, I mean for the free credits screen, I personally would love it if it gave me free cash, but unfortunately that will not happen.

Regards

Mark
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 06, 2015, 04:00:45 PM
well I copied the SxxLxxS and started changing that one. It will let me have the menu where I want so I think that's the way I need to do it to get it to work the way I want. I will let you know how it works out. I just need to change everything in it, gonna take a little while.
thanks...
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 06, 2015, 04:24:03 PM
I just done this quick video for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UucWE76rCB4&feature=youtu.be

I am getting lost in what you are trying to do but apart from the pop up menu I have just done your design within two seconds.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 07, 2015, 01:21:01 PM
The pop up menu and the normal menu are 2 different things. The touchgeni uses the normal menu which is displayed at the top all the time. SxxLxxs uses the normal menu but also the popup menu to display multiple things in the same space. This trick is achieved by having the pop up menu appear over the normal menu when you hit the pop up menu button that i think has been named something like more options.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 07, 2015, 01:51:36 PM
At the moment I don't think it is clicking in. I loaded up what I downloaded and the icons were there but he had the page set for say 600 and the icons was at 800 so the menu was hidden. I only done a quick video to show he has everything there already but he is over thinking and until you stop over thinking then it gets more complicated. I was the same you think why is this not working, how can they display something I can't so apart from bugs which there are fewer of now it mainly is point and click and needing to know what HTML and frames are about. I mention that as if you was creating a website this is similar you have a page, navigation top, left or bottom and then your main content in the middle.

This reasonably uses frames and as long as you think that each page is going on top of each other, if you put a black page on a white page, you will not see the white page any more, so you have to rip bits out of the black page to show the parts of the white page you need to see.

The only way that you could make this easier is actually having the main page more point and click rather than a jumble like it looks to start with, it is only when you realise that you have to edit each page and that Null and Album view play a part of what is really the main view.

Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 08, 2015, 07:44:18 PM
got a lot done. having a couple of tiny problems
1. on the tracklisting page the play count:8 and play count:9 don't show for me to adjust there position in the skin tool. shows up on the jukebox though so I know its there just can't adjust.
2. I was fooling with the numbers on albums.cov and it doesn't seem to change anything. I would like to align all albums covers and backs to exact numbers. they're a little off. Is there anyway to do this?

thanks....
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 08, 2015, 09:02:31 PM
The track listing page should be bug free I will check but I will say that if you go to your file/control panel and then change the number of tracks to show and then change it back to the number you had originally that should work, but it might take a couple of times.

Ok I was wrong, there is a problem with track listings but if you change the tracks then it should appear eventually. The problem I have with track listing is label 3 so when you are doing tracks, make sure that you save every time that you make an edit as I was having the skin tool crash on me so I ended up losing the work I had done because of one difficult label 3.

Another tip for track listing is if you do need to move something and you are finding that you cannot move what you want to move, move the others away from that label and it will start to move then, but best to get that label in first.

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Regarding alignment that is sadly the biggest problem out there you should be able to enter numbers into a box on the skin tool, but all what you see is TXT3 so this is a bug that hasn't been corrected yet. It is annoying as you have to move everything with the mouse so the alignments are never 100% unless you spend a few hours trying to move it as best as you can.

Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 08, 2015, 10:04:16 PM
Infact I done a video of it a while back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR5svQDrDsg

If you skip to 3:25 that is when I started messing around with the track listing screen. My problems was too do with similar artists but the video shows about moving labels about 6 minutes in.

Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 09, 2015, 08:22:53 AM
YOu can align things exactly if you edit the ini files.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 09, 2015, 01:19:20 PM
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You can align things exactly if you edit the ini files.

can I edit the album.cov?

I need to edit the tracklist_v2.ini i believe. but I don't know what to edit to make playcount 8 & 9 to move down and to the right.

you can see in this video:
https://youtu.be/FNQII_ffw2c (https://youtu.be/FNQII_ffw2c)

never mind with the track ini I found it. I had to edit line 449,450 457,458. Is there anyway to put comments in the ini file?
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 09, 2015, 02:40:00 PM
Skin is getting there, see you have managed to have pop up menu displayed all the time nice.

INI file syntax¶

INI files are best known from Microsoft Windows, but they are also used with applications that run on other platforms (although their file extension is sometimes ".cfg" instead of ".ini").

INI files have a simple syntax with name/value pairs in a plain text file. The name must be unique (per section) and the value must fit on a single line. INI files are commonly separated into sections --in minIni, this is optional. A section is a name between square brackets, like "[Network]" in the example below.
[Network]
hostname=My Computer
address=dhcp
dns = 192.168.1.1

In the API and in this documentation, the "name" for a setting is denoted as the key for the setting. The key and the value are separated by an equal sign ("="). minIni supports the colon (":") as an alternative to the equal sign for the key/value delimiter.

Leading a trailing spaces around values or key names are removed. If you need to include leading and/or trailing spaces in a value, put the value between double quotes. The ini_gets() function (from the minIni library, see the minIni manual) strips off the double quotes from the returned value. Function ini_puts() adds double quotes if the value to write contains trailing white space (or special characters).

minIni ignores spaces around the "=" or ":" delimiters, but it does not ignore spaces between the brackets in a section name. In other words, it is best not to put spaces behind the opening bracket "[" or before the closing bracket "]" of a section name.

Comments in the INI must start with a semicolon (";") or a hash character ("#"), and run to the end of the line. A comment can be a line of its own, or it may follow a key/value pair (the "#" character and trailing comments are extensions of minIni).

For more details on the format, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INI_file.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 11, 2015, 01:32:01 PM
The ini files are just text files i use to store the values, there is no set format. If I was to comment them all it would involve changing the skins and we would need to redo all the skins again. Having comments slowed down the skin loading process as the comments were loaded as well which is why i dropped them.

Here is an updated skintool to fix that play count bug not showing up the extra labels when you change the amount of tracks.

Error Trapped Skintool
Download Link (http://www.freeboxjukebox.com/Files/skintool.rar)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 11, 2015, 03:01:55 PM
I will give it a proper try tomorrow but still some issues with 9.17 regarding track listings. I only done a very quick test on one skin I was messing about with but it might have to be a case of starting again on the other skin.

The joys of skinning lol
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 12, 2015, 08:58:33 AM
Well that fix was only to make sure the play count labels showed up if you change the amount of tracks shown. If there is another bug please let me know and i will fix that if i can recreate it. This is why I just posted up the skintool on it's own rather than make a full release, if you notice any other skintool bugs please let me know and I will fix them.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 12, 2015, 02:02:24 PM
Here is what i see in the new skintool
(http://daduber.com/jb/jb-skin-tr.jpg)



and here's how it shows up in etouch:

(http://daduber.com/jb/jb-track.jpg)


I don't see the 2 label 60's and a bunch of label 64's. under the stars there displayed but I can't move them if I don't see them or know exactly where there are in the ini file.

thanks
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 12, 2015, 02:18:47 PM
You are having the same problem as I am where the name of the artist for the other albums, genres and years is missing. I have got a feeling that it might be down to starting the skin again. I might just create a new skin and then see what happens with the new version.

I would recommend that you do what I do and have a couple of days break from skinning as sometimes it does get frustrating and once you get frustrated that it forms a mental block. At the moment I am having a break as much as possible from the whole side of things, e.g I don't want to tag or skin or do this that or the other.

I honestly hate MP3's as they take up so much time if the tagging was bad then it takes a while to correct that, in a lot of ways this is supposed to be a hobby but a lot of the times it feels more like a full time job.

The weird thing is that I don't actually listen to music a lot of the times I am sat in peace and quiet, but it is just a boys toy for me to have my cabinet now and if I wanted to be flash if I had company then it looks good.

I will be back on the computer in a minute, so what I will do is create a new skin and then give that a try and report back.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 12, 2015, 02:57:19 PM
New skin tool is more fooked than the other releases.

http://www.freeboxjukebox.com/Forum/index.php?topic=5628.0
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 12, 2015, 04:02:39 PM
I was able to fix what I needed to by changing values in the ini files. but just so you know it doesn't show in skin tool.

thanks
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 14, 2015, 02:42:19 PM
Almost done the skin.

Have a problem I assume its something wrong in the .cov file.

I have a random album cover showing up in the middle of the page behind the other covers:

(http://daduber.com/jb/jb-randomalbum.jpg)

and

(http://daduber.com/jb/jb-randomalbum2.jpg)

here is my latest version if anyone wants it or wants to try it out and tell me any problems I missed.

http://daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters-16x9.zip (http://daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters-16x9.zip)



Title: BUG BUG BUG Alert
Post by: Mark Norville on October 14, 2015, 03:20:18 PM
Yeah it is a skinning problem, and a BUG I think that it is the featured album but when you skin there is no icon there so you cannot move it.

Congrats on almost completing you seem to have got to grips with things which is the main thing really. It just takes a slight learning curve to understand things, but when it does click into place it does get simpler unless there are bugs there.

I honestly found it easier to create a skin rather than trying to edit one and adjust that.

I am still taking time off from skinning and tagging pretty much as I get bored of things. My skin is about 70% complete but I still want to make a few changes in design which takes more of the time. I started off designing one skin, and because of bugs, I ended up starting another skin and I am working on two versions of that with how I want things.

I am going to say one thing though and you can either tell me to shut up, or take it on board, the name of your skin.

I personally hate it as all the other skins are called black n blue, black n red, black n pinky purple blobs with a hint of yellow and it is FOOKING BORING.

Black and Yellow to me reminds me of a bumble bee, buzz, a pot of jam, honey, jasper, a hornet, you have taken this time to create a skin so why give it a shit name?
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 14, 2015, 03:47:49 PM
Hopefully Someone will know how to fix this.
I named it black n yellow 16x9 so everyone would know what it was also I thought that's what we were supposed to do.
All you have to do is change the folder name and it can be any name you want.
I really don't care what the name is as long as it works. lol
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 14, 2015, 04:23:45 PM
Only person who can fix it will be Barry the problem is he doesn't create skins so he doesn't notice what happens in the skin tool.

The name is up to you really so you can call it MY SKIN but then you are asked to include screen resolution (1600 x 900) for example so people know if they was too download.

I started off with 1600 x 900 due to my monitor but when I brought the cabinet it is more 1280 so if you are sharing to download then screen size will obviously be dependant for some people.

I will download and have a try.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 14, 2015, 04:31:32 PM
Your play 4 free credits button takes you to admin screen.

I am not sure if it is my end or your end, but I clicked on H and I had Guns n Roses come up but then for some reason I was having a 2 unlimited cover rather than gnr so it might be my end but I cant see that, so something seems a bit off with that.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 14, 2015, 04:52:10 PM
Ye the play 4 free button does the same thing on my end.
I noticed on the skin sxxlxxs that I changed to match mine its doesn't show its off the window
Wheres it supposed to go?

I will try the letters later. I have to put the skin on my actual jukebox cause on this one I only have a few artists to test
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 14, 2015, 05:30:56 PM
The actual play for free credits is supposed to be hidden and then only appear at a time set in your admin section. I honestly cannot tell you what it goes because for me that doesn't really interest me but then a lot of the features are not what I want either. E.G I don't want to burn to CD, download album etc etc I can see the attraction though of having burn to cd if it works so you can do a play list and think that might be good in the car but then I don't drive and I don't have a cd burner in the jukebox so really a useless function for me and I would say most people, especially a commercial user.

I am trying to get Barry to slow down on some features and creating apps when software is already out there to do the job better and faster. He hates me but NON MP3 TAGGER IS STILL SHIT!!!

The more you try to put in especially with a virtual basic programming system, the more it will just end up being an unusable crawl, there is only so much a program can do before being distorted for example you want this to be jukebox software, rather than an all singing all dancing multi media system which there are better and faster and free programs that can do that already.

Really unless the big boys at NSM jukebox or someone else comes out with a major new feature, then a jukebox is a jukebox.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 15, 2015, 02:21:12 PM
The letters all work fine for me.
I removed the button to play 4 free. I don't use that either.
I still would like to align a few things a little better.

My main concern is the extra album that pops up sometimes. I think its just something I need to take out of the .cov file but I;m not sure

thanks for all your help!
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 15, 2015, 03:44:02 PM
Barry will probably be working on an update to try and sort that out, I know he said that he is working on an update so he is possibly doing some WORK (sorry for swearing).

I have had the same problems that you have had, but then skins have been released but they do not have the same problems as we are experiencing, I am not sure if Barry is keeping the working version for himself, and giving us the buggy version or what? ;)

I know that when I first trying to skin I had to stop a couple of times due to the bugs and then re do the skin again which does get annoying.

The best advice I can possibly share with you, is to hard code where the images should be using photoshop for example and then copy and then move the buttons into that location and that should make buttons a bit more near the mark. Sadly that is the long way to go around it but easier way of matching up the buttons.

The other skinners are very quiet such as Coffee and the others that have created skins before, it would have been nice for them to have been hear giving advice and help but once you get the basics down it isn't too bad or hard really.

I am in no rush at the moment to finish my skin I still have a few pages to go and then possibly look at redoing a couple of things but the beer has been flowing steady and tagging, skinning gone out of the window, I cannot even be bothered to play a game at the moment I keep thinking have a break and do something different, but when I start I get bored and just switch off.

Before I was staying awake all night trying to finish a skin off, a week or two when I run out of booze I might get with it again.

Is your skin just for a monitor or have you got a cabinet as well?
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 15, 2015, 04:09:57 PM
BUG: Some tracks didn't show on load (FIXED)
BUG: Some skins didn't show up to be selected when loading (FIXED)

Error Trapped Skintool
Download Link (http://www.freeboxjukebox.com/Files/skintool.rar)

Any other bugs?
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 15, 2015, 04:30:50 PM
Yeah featured album not being moveable or hideable and showing on some screens, Dauber has posted some screens of that happening.

The labels missing from track listing when you click on more by artist, genre, years

They are two that I remember off the top of my head but until I get back on the system again and find them I cannot think of anything too much at the moment.

Regards

Mark
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: jukejohn on October 15, 2015, 05:17:33 PM
well done looks cool will try it out later
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 15, 2015, 05:59:41 PM
(http://daduber.com/jb/jb-missing.jpg)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 16, 2015, 03:52:43 PM
I made a couple changes.
I manually went into the cov file and changed all covers to align perfect.
I removed the play 4 free button.
made a couple adjustments to some other things also.

still have the random album in middle. didn't see where it could be in cover file.

here is the latest:
http://daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters-16x9.zip (http://daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters-16x9.zip)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 16, 2015, 03:58:51 PM
Shall have a look tomorrow or soon anyway weekend has started and beers have been flowing. What did you do to the ini file to make the missing labels show up then?

Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 16, 2015, 04:34:27 PM
They still don't show in the skin tool. but I figured out where in the ini file their position was and just changed the numbers.

Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 16, 2015, 04:47:04 PM
Ask a stupid question and get a stupid answer lol

What numbers did you change can you go into any more detail apart from changing numbers in an ini file.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 16, 2015, 05:23:17 PM
In the tracklist_v2.ini

(http://daduber.com/jb/inifile.jpg)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 16, 2015, 05:33:24 PM
Sod that for a game of soldiers, Barry can do some bug fixing. I wouldn't have the patience to go through ini files and then understand what they was. I did look at the ini files a long time ago but too me it is all a load of numbers and junk, too go through 700 lines of nonsense and actually find what you want I am impressed.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 19, 2015, 11:51:47 AM
I am hoping to get an update out for the skintool later.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 19, 2015, 02:46:39 PM
My main bug is the extra album showing in the middle of the album view. I tried figuring it out but I couldn't.

1 small other thing is how can I adjust the song facts?


Here are screen shots of the skin. when its done I can give you final version and we can post it in skin releases.

(http://daduber.com/jb/jb-screenshots-bny.jpg)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 19, 2015, 03:57:18 PM
BUG: Quickjump artist labels didn't show (FIXED)

Error Trapped Skintool
Download Link (http://www.freeboxjukebox.com/Files/skintool.rar)

This fixes the labels not showing on the tracklisting screen, You have the check box in use featured artist, take that out and resave the cov to remove that extra album. You also have a couple of pages set to be PNG not JPG. The pin back is one and i think the other is the player back.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 19, 2015, 04:18:46 PM
Thanks..
That worked for the album cover showing.

I re uploaded the latest one:

http://daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters-16x9.zip (http://daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters-16x9.zip)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 20, 2015, 09:30:20 AM
I'm back after the mother of all hang overs, couldn't even sit at a monitor. Skin looks great anyway not as good as mine but passable ;) I'll give it a test some point today.

Great update Barry works for me as well I only tested it quickly on track listings, so no bug hunting from me as yet.

Shower time and then into town for me soon but I might start playing later on today at some point, I need to get back into the land of the living again.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 20, 2015, 06:32:08 PM
when I choose a letter in album view I notice the background is the player control background. Is there any way to switch this?
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 20, 2015, 06:44:37 PM
I personally do not think that there is but I might be wrong, Barry will be able to answer that more than I can. I think with all skins I have tried they come up with one image, when I tried to put yours together quickly it was black.

I just had a quick try of the latest version, and if you want my view where you have the albums and the more icons, I personally would say that they are too high up the page but then I am using a different resolution screen, but they do not look central between the top and the bottom of the screen.

It might just be my screen resolution, I am testing on my TV rather than a monitor, so on yours it might look ok.

Your best bet would be to check another skin and see if it has the same problem as you are asking, if it does then it probably answers your question.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 21, 2015, 02:53:01 PM
using the same ini files I overwrote some of the images to create a Halloween skin. Any changes I need to make will work with both skin.
I'm almost done it. if anyone wants it I can upload it just lmk.

Here's some pics:

(http://daduber.com/jb/halloween/ss-halloween-main.jpg)

(http://daduber.com/jb/halloween/ss-halloween--hh.jpg)

(http://daduber.com/jb/halloween/ss-halloween--his.jpg)

(http://daduber.com/jb/halloween/ss-halloween--queue.jpg)

(http://daduber.com/jb/halloween/ss-halloween--search.jpg)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 21, 2015, 03:13:08 PM
Nice one, saves me finishing off my Halloween skin anyway lol saying that still got 10 days left and not had a drink since yesterday so am a bit more focused. Good to see how far you have become since the start.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 21, 2015, 03:48:23 PM
How is that button size on your touchscreen? I like the layout but i would personally enlarge some of the buttons to use the extra space. If you let me have it i will upload it for you.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 21, 2015, 06:34:01 PM
What button are you referring to? I am using a 24 inch monitor @ 1600X900 resolution. I like the size on my screen maybe its different for you.

here's my latest ones:
http://daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters-16x9.zip (http://daduber.com/jb/Black_and_Yellow_Letters-16x9.zip)

http://daduber.com/jb/Halloween-16x9.zip (http://daduber.com/jb/Halloween-16x9.zip)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 21, 2015, 06:50:31 PM
One thing that I will say regarding your admin page it might be me, but personally I think that you need to make the save button stand out a bit more than it is at the moment. It is designed the same as the other buttons and it took me a while to find out where the save button was.

Personally I think that the save button is as important as the power button, as obviously you want to make a change and then suddenly see the save button and think shit I need to save it, I think if you was in a rush to make a change and then go, you might not save it.

This is of course my view and up to you if you decide to take that on board or not.

If not, shutting my mouth now lol

Regards

Mark save (SAVE)
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 21, 2015, 07:10:43 PM
Ok. I re uploaded them and I changed the save settings button to green so it stands out.
I can could make it bigger and/or move it or change it to something else.
Let me know if you think I should.

Thanks...
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 21, 2015, 07:18:01 PM
I personally would make it the same size as the power button and move it somewhere as prominent as the power button or maybe side by side as it. I would also do another colour rather than black for the font. I will also say this and again you do not have to take this on board but you do not have to be a sheep and follow the flock.

I say this because I feel that in admin section you really need to have every button the same as other skins, E.G do you really need to have a button called animation settings, general settings, LED Settings, SETTINGS SETTINGS SETTINGS SETTINGS

I have simply called my buttons, General, Appearance, LED, Currency, and left out the word settings as I personally do not think that it is needed.

Again this is my own view but if I see one more admin screen and it has a SETTINGS button I am going to flocking scream lol

Regards

Mark
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Barcrest on October 22, 2015, 07:31:59 AM
I think it's nice to have another skin in a different resolution, thanks for this. I will grab them both later.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 22, 2015, 02:01:13 PM
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I think it's nice to have another skin in a different resolution, thanks for this. I will grab them both later.

no problem.
Let me know if you or anyone finds anything wrong or needs something changed. I don't use every feature of the software so could be something not right with a section.

thanks..
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: Mark Norville on October 22, 2015, 02:11:10 PM
Just giving it a try now and guess what. I instantly noticed the save button in admin.

I will take some screen grabs later but one of the pages I noticed that the page was not high enough and there looks to be typing underneath.

I also noticed that you are missing one button on your admin page, there should be a button that takes you back to the jukebox but as your buttons are visible even on admin screen that is not really a problem.

On the album view your more buttons still do not look level they look a bit high in relation to the position for the albums.
Title: Re: Designing A New Skin
Post by: DaDuber on October 22, 2015, 04:41:32 PM
I lowered the arrows on album page.
I tried to align all pages to same top. (Hard to get exactly right without going into ini files)
I added some more Halloween backs to other pages. Still need to change a few more buttons n pages.

I don't know how to put a button onto the admin page that isn't there.

I re uploaded them to same spot. same links