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Started by jonfinpausa, April 03, 2007, 10:41:22 AM

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netcat

Yes that one indeed.

The individual that was hosting this site originaly got threatened by the copyright owner of that particular skin "alegedly", and took it down overnight, (Without bothering to back it up I might add), this is how we ended up loosing the Skin Documentation

It is currently being hosted by me, on a server outside US Territory (which should minimize liability problems), however still not an excuse to rock the boat.

Barcrest

Quote from: netcat on May 15, 2007, 01:04:03 AM
Yes that one indeed.

The individual that was hosting this site originaly got threatened by the copyright owner of that particular skin "alegedly", and took it down overnight, (Without bothering to back it up I might add), this is how we ended up loosing the Skin Documentation

It is currently being hosted by me, on a server outside US Territory (which should minimize liability problems), however still not an excuse to rock the boat.


There is no allegedly about it.... I saw the legal stuff that was emailed to him. It all looked legit to me and it wasn't worth him pushing to find out. To be honest i don't really care if they try to do anything to me i'm in the UK and have no assets anyway, but i don't want the site being taken down again because of it. That could happen by the hosting company being leaned on, go daddy could shut us down and our internet providers could also shut us down. Those are the real factors for not wanting to upset them...
Keep on Rocking in the Free World \m/ ;D\m/



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jonfinpausa

I totally understand and agree, no sense in rocking the boat or lighting a fire where we dont need too.

ANd Barry you do have assets bro, you have a wife and daughter to think about and Im sure you dont want this project to cause any un-necassary hardship on either of them, so lets just keep it fun.I really missed being involved with the project when I was in the Academy but the Academy took all of my time.

I have to admit Im a little leary now about the rental units and it is a gray area but I have not really been promoting or pushing them, I have just been alowing a few friends to set them up at partys to show the product.I dont see a problem with selling the jukebox as a product, but that is tough right now because of getting the music on the jukebox with artwork takes a little computer knowledge, and people who would pay for the jukebox dont want or have computer knowledge, its just an area we need to work on and develope.
I would offer to help but integrating one person code into another is a challange.I would truly like to see the whole project ported over to linux with a propriatary kernal but it would be a large investment and commitment.

Fish

netcat

Agreed.

Those parties interested in using/contributing other materials, feel free to contact me so we can reach a solution, honestly Barry is right the forums is not the ideal place to be discussing this.


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Barcrest

Linux is not happening at all... It would need to be coded in something other than VB and i am not even interested in learning C or C++ to switch to linux so i can say now there is no way it will be ported. However there is a version of linux that runs windows apps like halflife 2 etc so it might work as is with that but i don't have it to try.
Keep on Rocking in the Free World \m/ ;D\m/



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netcat

#65
might it be possible to recompile in linux?

please read following article:

http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/02/21/visual_basic_mono_linux/

I had some trouble getting to the download link please see this
http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page

and this
http://mono.ximian.com/monobuild/preview/download-preview/

and this as well:
http://www.mono-project.com/MoMA
Looks really interesting




jonfinpausa

Yes you can write out your own kernal and recompile, it is completely open source.

I took to look around Mono and it seem to be just another distro kinda like mandrake and knoppix.

I really wasnt looking to port freebox, that was a misleading term, I was looking to actually build a OS that would just run a program like freebox.I know the it will have to be completely rewritten.I have ran Freebox on Win4Lin and it worked but the Windows OS is still laying on the system and thats what I would like to see gone.The long term goal would be to have the jukebox package and the entire os needed for the package on a chip leaving the hard drive/drives just for library storage.This would solve un-identified crashes and enominalies that come with VB and the MS OS.Not to mention there would be no cost for an os for each jukebox.

Historically most people didnt purchase jukeboxs for their homes and I think it was because they were expensive and to darn technical for people to understand.These issues would have to be addressed before a marketing plan could be devised.

Fish

Barcrest

I found a commercial system you can buy in the U.K. i did email the guy last night but so far no reply.
Keep on Rocking in the Free World \m/ ;D\m/



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netcat

OK but how awesome would that be?

Barry would you have any objections to allowing the recompiling of Freebox within Mono (linux)? if not I know 2 or 3 people pretty savy with Linux that might be able to assist

Barcrest

Feel free, if you can make it work then all the better... I was just stating that linux isn't really something i am interested in. I will not be able to gaurentee it will work in linux and if i switch to windows media player there is probebly even less of a chance.
Keep on Rocking in the Free World \m/ ;D\m/



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coffee

I really like where you are going with this thread. I really like the packaging of freebox and the os on a chip idea. It will really be very very stable and realiable. Jonfinpausa, that's a good brainwave bro.
I will try and get it going.
I also thought of using a flashdrive to run freebox from and use a removeable harddrive to change the music on the juke to save time.
    

jonfinpausa

I was really trying to find a market so Barry can make some money on his work.
I just cant sell a $2000.00 MP3 Jukebox to every Tom,Dick And Harry so I have to cut the cost.
One way is in the OS, I think Barry would be happy with a few bucks for every jukebox built especially if we are pumping them out to every WallMart in the US.We do have alot of work to do before that can happen but it is possible if we can get the cost of building the units way down and make it so anyone can just slide in a cd and will add the music,artwork,and titles with no fuss.It is possible.

Fish

netcat


Barcrest

Quote from: jonfinpausa on May 16, 2007, 08:14:58 PM
I was really trying to find a market so Barry can make some money on his work.
I just cant sell a $2000.00 MP3 Jukebox to every Tom,Dick And Harry so I have to cut the cost.
One way is in the OS, I think Barry would be happy with a few bucks for every jukebox built especially if we are pumping them out to every WallMart in the US.We do have alot of work to do before that can happen but it is possible if we can get the cost of building the units way down and make it so anyone can just slide in a cd and will add the music,artwork,and titles with no fuss.It is possible.

Fish

What you speak of already exists... It's £2,000+VAT or i can get the one without the software for £1,500+vat. It seems a little steep to me though as it only has a 15" screen.... I set a limit in my mind of £1,000 so i don't think i will go with that option. That has a 1.3ghz CPU an 80 gig HD and a 15" touchscreen in a proper commercial brushed metal case with custom artwork and coin mech. It does look great but it's a bit too pricey, especially for home use.
Keep on Rocking in the Free World \m/ ;D\m/



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netcat

Keep in mind also as cool as it may be its still not FREEBOX !